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Hi all

Just seeing what your thoughts are regarding braided brake line, are they worth installing? I've came across numerous reviews that recons they're a waste of money, they recon there's no noticeable pedal improvement, are they even road legal here in QLD?

Cheers
Minh

you can get ADR approved ones (legal)
lots of people say it's better to get a master cylinder brace though

I beleive they are worth every cent. Brake pedal feel is a LOT firmer, no squishy feel and you can feel the difference even on the street.

Its around the $200 mark for ss lines (ADR aproved) + 8 bucks for new fluid.

I just installed mine about 2 weeks ago (2001 NB8B). I think the older your OEM lines the more difference you will notice. Considering old lines will give and expand more.

I do notice a difference in \"firmness\" I had to bleed in new fluids so that may also have contributed to the more \"firm feel\". I estimate its around 10% more firm, dont have to press the pedal as deep to have bite etc.

Its not a missive wow difference but overall Im happy I installed the ss lines.

So the ones that are ADR approve would have some sort of tag or engraving that say so?

i have seen a review at double the psi of most full brake applications and the difference was about 1 - 2 % in the expansion of the lines - good luck noticing the difference.

Did the review compare new lines to SS lines? I think the difference is greater as the line gets old...

If you press the pedal hard on old lines you can visibily see the lines expand in that case surely it cant be a 1% differnece.

they were quite old and it was done on a proper measuring machine of sorts. i will have a look and try to find it.

Every proper race car in the world uses braided lines...you can use that as a reference. Roads cars don't really need them but even HSV and FPV fit them to their performance models.

wun911 wrote:Did the review compare new lines to SS lines? I think the difference is greater as the line gets old...

If you press the pedal hard on old lines you can visibily see the lines expand in that case surely it cant be a 1% differnece.

bloody hell wun!!!........your eyesight must be unbelievable, no WAY brake line expansion is visible to the naked eye

i found zero difference when i fitted mine

CT wrote:Every proper race car in the world uses braided lines...you can use that as a reference. Roads cars don't really need them but even HSV and FPV fit them to their performance models.

I would say thats got more to do with reliablity under extreme conditions then how much they expand - that and manufacturors of road cards don't do it on a lot of cars because its more expensive and the normal lines work just fine.

16bit wrote:

CT wrote:Every proper race car in the world uses braided lines...you can use that as a reference. Roads cars don't really need them but even HSV and FPV fit them to their performance models.

I would say thats got more to do with reliablity under extreme conditions then how much they expand - that and manufacturors of road cards don't do it on a lot of cars because its more expensive and the normal lines work just fine.

I would say it's got more to do with reliability under NORMAL conditions James

if by normal you mean extreme then yes

I think I found the article 16bit read.

http://autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=2679

Its only a 1% difference