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Price check SUPERPRO Bush Kit $400??
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:28 pm
by wun911
$400 for a superpro bush kit is this about the right price? Also is this a complete kit the list seems a bit short??
http://www.nahux.com/NPOWER/vehicle_pro ... =34&cid=49Those who do have them how are you finding them now? Do they need to be greased regularly are they squeeky is the ride still firm??
Where can I find that big C clamp or when is the next doggy day??
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:35 pm
by Juffa
The list of parts on the linked site seems to cover everything. The only bits missing are sway bar bushes. They are not necessary unless your current ones are worn and allowing too much movement.
I have replaced the bushes in each of the 3 MX-5s that I have owned. It is one of the best improvements you can make. I bought mine through a suspension shop on Felmington road and they cost a lot more than N*Power is selling them for.
The C clamp and other tools required are available for members of the Victorian MX-5 Club. If you are member get in contact with them and they will let you know how to get the tools.
J
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:50 pm
by StanTheMan
If I was to do it again I'd go OEM. With polyurathane bushes on sawys & likn ends only.
I find them way too harsh. I also run konis & kings with shortened bump stops
I've had them on the car for about 6-8 mths....so no squeeking issues yet.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:18 pm
by Matty
StanTheMan wrote:If I was to do it again I'd go OEM. With polyurathane bushes on sawys & likn ends only.
agreed. I didn't find them hars, and they only started squeaking very slightly after a couple of years. For me the issue was that (if not lubricated often) they will get sticky and lose their free movement.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:49 pm
by manga_blue
It was a ride in Matty's car that decided me to get them. Nessy had 299,000km on it at the time and felt like new.
I've had mine for a year now. Apart from a tolerable increase in NVH it still feels damn good.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:24 pm
by Fatty
yeah i thought the increase in NVH was tolerable as well. but, then i moved to coburg . the roads here are abysmal and it's really giving me the shits big time.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:42 pm
by StanTheMan
Yep I drove Nessy recently She's a little softer than mine. Not sure why. Konis are on full soft.
Mine was super low at the front. I've raised the front by about 12mm. I may have been riding on the bump stops. I've not had the chance to drive it a lot since.
I'll wait & see. I can't afford another suspension job. certainly not before the paint job. But maybe I'll just replace specific bushes to soften the ride a little. Or change springs. not sure yet. But that should probably be in a separate thread.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:01 pm
by StanTheMan
wun911.
As you can see you will get different opinions. $400 for the kit is a pretty good price. I think i paid $560 in a group buy last year. OEM bushes will work out at 800-900. and only seriously last 150k km
I think it would be fair to say that the super pros certainly improve the ride over bumps.
In my case, I'm having a midlife crisis. I've become a ricer because i really like the look of the dumped MX5 and I'm happy to compromise the ride
see If i had started counting backwards when i turned 30 I'd be right on 19 YO now.
so most likely reason for my negative judgment is because I've become a ricer in my old age but now have to face the fact that my ride hight is my dilemma.
Even if i can make Patchy ride like Nessy by raising my suspension. It will still be to harsh for me. So get involved with the Vic club. maybe someone who has fitted the super pros will take you for a ride & you canmake your own judgment.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:08 pm
by Slugoid
There was a thread in another forum about rubber vs. poly bush and I would have to say poly bushes are bang for your bucks. Sure rubber is better but at twice the cost, is it really worth it?
I have recently fitted some on my 89' NA and it feels great. Only done around 2-3000km so it's still early days, but no squeaks so far. As for ride quality, I can't really tell cos I changed suspension along with the bush all at once.
StanTheMan wrote:Yep I drove Nessy recently She's a little softer than mine. Not sure why. Konis are on full soft.
That's because Koni's don't have bump force adjustment, only rebound. So even if you set it on full soft you still get the same bump, or compression, dampening. Stuff like Tein SS/Flex have adjustment that affect both bump and rebound forces.
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:20 am
by StanTheMan
Slugoid wrote:I
StanTheMan wrote:Yep I drove Nessy recently She's a little softer than mine. Not sure why. Konis are on full soft.
That's because Koni's don't have bump force adjustment, only rebound. So even if you set it on full soft you still get the same bump, or compression, dampening. Stuff like Tein SS/Flex have adjustment that affect both bump and rebound forces.
right.....the plot thickens. Cheers for that.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:11 pm
by wun911
Thanks for the feedback.
I will probably buy them for $400. When they arriveI'll find someone to install everything for me.
(Looks like a fair bit of work and beyond the skills of a nube)
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:20 pm
by manga_blue
StanTheMan wrote:Slugoid wrote:I
StanTheMan wrote:Yep I drove Nessy recently She's a little softer than mine. Not sure why. Konis are on full soft.
That's because Koni's don't have bump force adjustment, only rebound. So even if you set it on full soft you still get the same bump, or compression, dampening. Stuff like Tein SS/Flex have adjustment that affect both bump and rebound forces.
right.....the plot thickens. Cheers for that.
It's funny how things go around in this forum. Last I heard Nessy was sitting on my old NA8 springs, new OEM bump stops and KYB AGX shocks.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:10 pm
by StanTheMan
Not sure Nessys has been lowered & turboed
***taps microphone****
Mr ampz....please report to the front desk.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:28 pm
by wun911
Sorry one more nube quesiton:
I see a lot of people adivse the superpro bushes need to be re greased every 12 months.
1 How is this service done?
2 What kinda grease do I use?
(something tells me it aint goin to be a 1 min job with a can of WD40)
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:02 pm
by Locutus
good question. i've been eyeing the superpros myself but am concerned with the reports of the need for regular lubrication.
does the suspension need to be removed from the car for lubrication? is it possible to just give all the bushings a good squirt of silicon lubricant at every oil change?