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Tyres
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:30 pm
by Rob81w
Hi all,
Just had my SP23 serviced and was told to pump my tires up more then the recommended 30psi as my tires are wearing un evan and to quick.
Does this sound right? seems logical to me.
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:46 pm
by Boags
Safe driver training courses (not tyre manufacturers) always recommend between 32 and 36 PSI, depending on weight, for a passenger vehicle.
Manufacturers want you to feel comfy and buy their tyres again.
Boags
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:57 pm
by kitkat
Boags'MX5 wrote:Safe driver training courses (not tyre manufacturers) always recommend between 32 and 36 PSI, depending on weight, for a passenger vehicle.
Manufacturers want you to feel comfy and buy their tyres again.
Boags
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:12 pm
by AJ
Boags'MX5 wrote:Manufacturers want you to feel comfy and buy their tyres again.
Boags
prefferably in the shortest time possible
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:45 pm
by Entice
I'd be getting the bloke that does your wheel alignment set-up to adjust your tyre pressures.
In Melb, I use Ralf at TruTrack. Alignments are always done depending on your driving style/description, and a re-test/adjustment is done at 5000Km's. Tyre pressures adjusted accordingly to promote even tyre wear. Has done wonders for my STi, Astra's, and Mx5....
If you setup your car for the track, then forget about tyre wear, as this would be the least of your concerns!
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:13 pm
by skimad
Yep agree with boags, Did the Ian Luff course he was saying the same thing with my old wrx.
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:17 pm
by Old EmmGee
Speaking on behalf of vehicle manufacturers....
Always follow the recommended pressures indicated on the tyre plaque on the vehicle - this gives the optimum compromise (as they all are) of comfort, suspension life, and grip/stability. The little contact area between the patch of rubber and the road is all that keeps you coming back for more....on a variety of surfaces and conditions.....
Sure, you can change the feel of a vehicle by playing with tyre pressures, but usually at the cost of something else.
Nuff said!
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:24 pm
by Andy Wana
I thought I'll just post my question/frustration here since I don't want to spam the forum
I've been on the lookout for a new set of tyres to go with my new wheels
Looking for a 195/50/R15 tyre for normal daily driving (with some spirited runs at times)
So far here are the choices that have been given to me by various shops in the Brookvale, NSW area:
Pirelli P6000
Hankook 104 (made in Korea)
Nankang NS2 (made in China)
Yokohama S-Drive (made in Japan)
Going by instinct/brand awareness, I'd go for the Yokkies without hesitation ... the rest seemed too sketchy somewhat since I've not heard about them being used much on the MX5
Is there anyone that I can talk to in the Brookvale area about good tyres to go on the MX5?
There are a lot of talk about the Toyo T1-Rs but they are pricey (or so I've heard) ... and some people don't like it too
Maybe Michelin Pilot Precedas 2? What about other brands?
I am confused.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:24 pm
by Fuzzlet
I would stay away from NangKangs. Ive almost been killed in the hands of them. Ive got goodyear eagle F1s, and they are doing the job. Heck in the same situation I was in with the 'Kangs, the F1s held up
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:15 pm
by manga_blue
old emmgee wrote:Speaking on behalf of vehicle manufacturers....
Always follow the recommended pressures indicated on the tyre plaque on the vehicle - this gives the optimum compromise (as they all are) of comfort, suspension life, and grip/stability. The little contact area between the patch of rubber and the road is all that keeps you coming back for more....on a variety of surfaces and conditions.....
Sure, you can change the feel of a vehicle by playing with tyre pressures, but usually at the cost of something else.
Nuff said!
Not enough said really. Their compromise favours ride and comfort at the expense of handling, braking distance, wear, safety or almost any other factor which is more important to the typical person on this forum.
Take a defensive driving course or talk to people who value these things and you'll understand.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:58 am
by Garry
Check your alignment. At the manufacturers recomended pressure on the standard wheel/tyre size the tyre should wear evenly.
Andy Wanna,
I've used P6000's on my NA in 15\" and they were far and away the best wet weather tyres I have ever used, even when worn down to the wear bars they still had lots of grip in the wet. They were very noisey though and made a sound like a stuffed wheel bearing from about 1/3 worn. Dry grip was OK but they let go fairly early on but they were very progressive and I knew when they were at their limit and could still control things beyond their limit, so they were fun if you dont mind a bit of slipping and sliding. There are better tyres out there, but also worse ones. For the right price they're not to bad.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:30 am
by Andy Wana
Garry wrote:Check your alignment. At the manufacturers recomended pressure on the standard wheel/tyre size the tyre should wear evenly.
Andy Wanna,
I've used P6000's on my NA in 15" and they were far and away the best wet weather tyres I have ever used, even when worn down to the wear bars they still had lots of grip in the wet. They were very noisey though and made a sound like a stuffed wheel bearing from about 1/3 worn. Dry grip was OK but they let go fairly early on but they were very progressive and I knew when they were at their limit and could still control things beyond their limit, so they were fun if you dont mind a bit of slipping and sliding. There are better tyres out there, but also worse ones. For the right price they're not to bad.
Garry,
I don't mind a bit of slipping and sliding, but the missus will probably not.
She wasn't impressed the last time I pulled off a nice recovery drift at the roundabout (accidentally) in the wet.
I completely spun out (facing the wrong side of the road) once too, so all the more important to find something that's like super glue on the roads (be it wet or dry weather). GRIP is the name of the game.
I don't mind investing a little bit more money for better tyres, but I won't shell out $200 - 300 for a tyre
Spoke with Andre at Mania yesterday afternoon (great bloke) and he wasn't impressed with his Yokkie C-Drives
So it's back to square one for my choices ... how do the OE tyres on the NA8 perform?
I might just play it safe and get the same tyres (in a 195/50/15 though)
On the other hand, do any of the MX5 drivers use Continental tyres out there? I've been recommended with the Conti Contact Comfort 1 and they aren't too bad price wise. The Contis are OE for a lot of luxury/prestigious cars, so I assume they are well made.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:51 am
by Grumpy
We are running 2 MX5's in club events and 1 is daily driver. Just fitted C drives to the daily and so far they seem great. Also fitted S drives to the other 5, as it is mainly used on the track. They 2 seem fine. Both cars have great dry grip. Still waiting for rain in Melb. Am about to fit C drives to the wife's Renault Scenic next week. It was running Continentals which lasted about 65,000 k
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:59 pm
by Andy Wana
Alright, I am going to ignore ALL the dealers that I spoke before and get opinions for the following tyres from fellow MX5 owners
Recommendation of good places and prices would be good as well
Toyo Proxes T1-R
Bridgestone Potenza G3
Michelin Precedas PP2
I believe these tyres are spoken highly amongst the MX5 owners
Each of them have their own pros and cons ... I just want a good selection of tyres that I can choose from
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:09 pm
by Garry
I've had the Potenza G3's on my NA and wasn't impressed with anything that they did. The only good about them at the time was the price.