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15\" JDM look...how to?

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:26 pm
by deez
Hi guys,

I've just purchased my first car last week, a red NA6 :D Apart from a few minor things that needs to be fixed up I'm pretty happy with the way things are. The previous owner had put 17\" Lenso S7 Modify's on the car and down where I live (South Sydney) the roads must be a lot worse than where he is....the car keeps crashing on every little bump and ditch in the road to the point that its becoming unbearable :cry:

So, I'm planning to sell them off and get myself a set of 15\" Black Racing Pro N1's in grey for that fat JDM look 8) http://www.arw.co.jp/wheel/blackracing/pro-n1.html

I'm a total beginner and so was wondering if I can get some advice on:

1. Where can I buy them from? Looked at many places, no luck so far....
2. What wheel width, offset, etc should I be looking at?
3. What tyre width? 195 or 205?
4. Are there aftermarket alloys that are just not meant to be put onto a RWD car due to different offsets from FWD? What are ideal offsets for a RWD?
5. What tyre height/thickness should I be looking at?

Thanks in advance for your response!

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:36 pm
by kula
welcome!

nice wheels
buddyclub P1s are similar.. and can be found everywhere


195/50/15 on a 15x7 wheel will look good and fit
about a +45 ofset is standard but wont really look dishy.

+30 to +20 is what you want
youll probly have to lip your guards.

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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:45 pm
by deez
kula wrote:welcome!

195/50/15 on a 15x7 wheel will look good and fit
about a +45 ofset is standard but wont really look dishy.

+30 to +20 is what you want
youll probly have to lip your guards.


Thanks for the welcome kula :)
Sorry if this is a dumb question...for 195/50/15, I know that 195 is the width of the tyre...what do 50 and 15 stand for?

How would a +45 offset look on the NA6? By standard, do you mean that +45 is the standard offset from the factory?

Without rolling or lipping the guards, what kind of offset can be achieved? Please bear with my silly questions....thanks :?

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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:55 pm
by Boags
deez wrote:Thanks for the welcome kula :)
Sorry if this is a dumb question...for 195/50/15, I know that 195 is the width of the tyre...what do 50 and 15 stand for?

How would a +45 offset look on the NA6? By standard, do you mean that +45 is the standard offset from the factory?

Without rolling or lipping the guards, what kind of offset can be achieved? Please bear with my silly questions....thanks :?


Welcome deez! And well done on your purchase! The 50 is the profile of the tyre, it means that the "height" of the tyre - from rim to outer edge - will be 50% of the width (195), and the 15 is your rim in inches...

+45 is factory, and I have no idea what you can run without having to roll the guards sorry...

Cheers,

Boags 8)

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:59 am
by Slugoid
deez wrote:How would a +45 offset look on the NA6? By standard, do you mean that +45 is the standard offset from the factory?

Without rolling or lipping the guards, what kind of offset can be achieved? Please bear with my silly questions....thanks :?


I'm running 16X7 with around 35+ offset. It's sitting pretty flush with the guards and anything less than 30+ you'll have to roll it. Mine's lowered too and there's no rubbing. Check out the link in my siggy for pics.

Oh yeah and welcome to the forums :)

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:45 am
by deez
Thanks for your replies guys :)

I think I know what I'm after now...a +30 offset since the rims are smaller than slugoids and the suspension isnt really lowered.

Has anyone tried or have seen someone using 205 tyres on an NA6? Seems that most people on the forum recommend using 195 instead. Is 205 a bad thing for a NA6?

Thanks.

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:10 am
by Babalouie
Don't be scared of rolling your guards...if you want the wheels to be pushed right out to the edges of the guards, it's necessary. +30 offset on a 6.5in rim won't be very dished at all.

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:24 am
by Slugoid
deez wrote:Has anyone tried or have seen someone using 205 tyres on an NA6? Seems that most people on the forum recommend using 195 instead. Is 205 a bad thing for a NA6?

Thanks.


I have 205's on my NA6 as well :P . I don't think there's a problem with wider tyres on the mx5, but some believe it's less fun with them :lol: . Could be cost too, as 195's are cheaper than 205's and more choices if you're going for 15's for example.

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:37 am
by deez
Babalouie wrote:Don't be scared of rolling your guards...if you want the wheels to be pushed right out to the edges of the guards, it's necessary. +30 offset on a 6.5in rim won't be very dished at all.

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Babalouie.....that's the car from jdmtuning forums eh? I read the specs and its running some crazy offsets... something like +15? Does that NA6 have rolled guards?

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:04 pm
by Babalouie
deez wrote:Babalouie.....that's the car from jdmtuning forums eh? I read the specs and its running some crazy offsets... something like +15? Does that NA6 have rolled guards?


Yes, +15 offset and yes it's got rolled guards. You can actually see in that pic that the rear wheelarch lip is folded up, startng from just above the beltline.

...and it's an NA8 BTW :D

Here's a shot of the front wheelarch
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No rubbing at all, not even drifting at track speed when you get onto lots of opposite lock.

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:53 pm
by Andy Wana
Babalouie, you should post the rest of the photos up here
Saw your interview and gallery shots at JDMST
I am thoroughly impressed with the photos by Felix Alim and the mods carried out to your car

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:12 pm
by EGG80X
here are some eudm dish....
25 Offset on 7\" wide rims running 195/55r15
no scrubbing at all.....

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will be interesting when I run 9\" wide at offset 30 lol
Hopefully I'll get some photos soon

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:43 pm
by deez
EGG80X wrote:here are some eudm dish....
25 Offset on 7" wide rims running 195/55r15
no scrubbing at all.....

will be interesting when I run 9" wide at offset 30 lol
Hopefully I'll get some photos soon


Interesting....makes me think again how far out wide I can go with the offset thing without rolling the guards 8) (cost issue really....I'm broke as it is without having to do body mods :cry:

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:27 pm
by Babalouie
deez wrote:
EGG80X wrote:here are some eudm dish....
25 Offset on 7" wide rims running 195/55r15
no scrubbing at all.....

will be interesting when I run 9" wide at offset 30 lol
Hopefully I'll get some photos soon


Interesting....makes me think again how far out wide I can go with the offset thing without rolling the guards 8) (cost issue really....I'm broke as it is without having to do body mods :cry:


Guard rolling isn't expensive....I paid $25 per guard, but make sure the guy who does it is good tho...I've had jobs on other cars done which were shockingly poor.

Generally speaking, on an NA you have a bit less room under the guards than you have an an NB. With guard rolling the max you can go is +14 with a 6.5in wide rim and +20 with a 7in rim. With 8inches, by rights +32 might be doable, but then you might have some clearance issues on the inside of the wheel :)

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:43 pm
by deez
Babalouie wrote:
Guard rolling isn't expensive....I paid $25 per guard, but make sure the guy who does it is good tho...I've had jobs on other cars done which were shockingly poor.


Thanks for the suggestions :) Can you recommend a good place for guard rolling in Sydney? Thanks.