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Help - Tein SS

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:00 pm
by Philip Lee
hi all,

got a question re height adjustment. i have lowered the car and there are now 11mm (front) and 6mm (rear) of threads left on the shocks but the car still sit 330mm from centre of wheel to guard.

i want the car to sit 320mm but with the limited threads left, i don't think i can acheive that.

so my questions:
- has i done something wrong re: installation? with the Tein factory settings, the car was sitting around 335 to 340mm depends on the corner. and the springs didn't seem to zag around 5 months and 2000km....

- anyone tried the lowest height on the SS? are there still enough travel even if it's at the shortest??

btw my SS is Jap spec with 6k (F) and 5k (R) springs on Tein top mount and my car is an import NA6.

thanks in advance.

Philip

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:27 pm
by Babalouie
That's odd...Mine's been down to a bit less than 315mm and still with some threads left to go on the adjuster...

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:50 pm
by Philip Lee
i am out of idea now.

i hope i don't have to take the thing off to find out......

just looking at it, it's seems normal. is there some nuts i need to tighten???

i'm lost.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:52 pm
by Philip Lee
also i didn't fiddle with the unit.

it was just a case of out of the box, onto the car.

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:53 pm
by Juffa
When you tightened the suspension nuts/bolts, after putting on the Teins did you have the suspension under compression? If not, that might explain why it is sitting higher than you expected. Whenever I have removed/replaced/upgraded my suspension components I have used a jack to press up against the lower arm and raise it until the car is almost lifted off the stands. I then tighten everything, lower the jack, fit the wheels, take the car of the stands.
I read on the big forum that you can damage the suspension bushes if you don't tighten everything under compression.

J

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:51 pm
by Babalouie
Juffa wrote:When you tightened the suspension nuts/bolts, after putting on the Teins did you have the suspension under compression? If not, that might explain why it is sitting higher than you expected. Whenever I have removed/replaced/upgraded my suspension components I have used a jack to press up against the lower arm and raise it until the car is almost lifted off the stands. I then tighten everything, lower the jack, fit the wheels, take the car of the stands.
I read on the big forum that you can damage the suspension bushes if you don't tighten everything under compression.

J


That's a good point...when you retighten the bolts the wishbones should be at the normal ride height level as much as poss. But I wouldn't have thought that it would make such a big diff to the ride height...

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:04 pm
by Philip Lee
well we fitted at my fd's workshop on a hoist. we screwed and tighten the bottom nut first (the one on the lower arm) and then drop the hoist used a jack to lift the suspension so we can screw the upper nuts and then fit the wheels.

i guess this is the same as what u described??

thanks

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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:18 pm
by Babalouie
Philip Lee wrote:well we fitted at my fd's workshop on a hoist. we screwed and tighten the bottom nut first (the one on the lower arm) and then drop the hoist used a jack to lift the suspension so we can screw the upper nuts and then fit the wheels.

i guess this is the same as what u described??

thanks


Sounds like you did the right thing...why don't you take a side-on pic of the car for us?

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:05 am
by Brad
After installing mine only recently, I really can't see how installing them with the car hoisted would make a difference. The only vertical play you'll get is in the ring rubber at the top, about 2mm at the most, which would get compressed when you did up the three top nuts anyway, and the lower runner bush connecting to the lower control arm, which will have almost no play.

Mines sitting ataround 320mm all around with about 10-12mm left in their length, so <310mm could be achived as the wheel will drop further than the amount you change the perch height due to the lever action of the A-arm.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:12 am
by Philip Lee
come to think of it, we didn't put the thing under a lot of compression.

if that is important i guess i'd have to refit them under stronger compression again.

did everyone do this?

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:15 am
by Philip Lee
excuse for the poor quality, this is the current height @ 330mm all round.

LR:
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RF:
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RR:
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close up:
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thanks all for your contribution.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:26 am
by Brad
Hmm, that does seem very high. Here is mine with about 1/2 inch left of thread.

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The front looks higher due to the loss of reflection from the tyre but it's the same as the rear.

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:30 am
by Craig
Being the JDM spec ones is it possible they are the NB and not the NA ones, if that's possible?

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:35 am
by bigdog
*offers Phillip $500 for obviously faulty teins to ease his pain and help buy proper NA ones* :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:37 am
by Brad
My understanding is the ones Fulcrum stock are the same for NA and NB, though the Tein catalouge does differentiate between the two.