How much grip is too much - Is more grip always better

Jeo · Postby **Jeo** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:27 pm

Of the thousands of 'vtec kicked in' image macros, you chose one made by someone who can't spell?

ForceMajeure · Postby **ForceMajeure** » Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:06 pm

Jeo wrote:Of the thousands of 'vtec kicked in' image macros, you chose one made by someone who can't spell?

That is the Chinese version.

PaulF · Postby **PaulF** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:18 pm

yuanyelss wrote:You will be very difficult to find a legitimate way anywhere near the tire can produce more than enough grip there is a risk. Again, if your wheel is legal and will not close enough to the width, or even dangerous...

... W... What?

zombie · Postby **zombie** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:42 pm

Paul: it was a spammer - best to ignore them

PaulF · Postby **PaulF** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:33 pm

Haha yeah, I sorta figured that after reading the other posts by the same user. Makes for an entertaining read. :lol:

land864 · Postby **land864** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:37 pm

shshami

$ 124 per corner F+B . WTF :shock:

I see that is for 15"

I am after Japanese made RE001's in 205 45 R16 and got quoted over $ 100 more than that per tyre F+B.

Is the discount to Vic MX 5 Club members?

land864 · Postby **land864** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:40 pm

Sorry also meant to ask

Opinions on Toyo T1R in 205 45 R16 please

I am not into drifting out the back end etc.

Just want something to hang on good in the dry and not let go too easily in the wet.

As someone has said , lots of dry days to have fun

snshami · Postby **snshami** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:41 pm

land864 wrote:shshami

$ 124 per corner F+B . WTF

I see that is for 15"

I am after Japanese made RE001's in 205 45 R16 and got quoted over $ 100 more than that per tyre F+B.

Is the discount to Vic MX 5 Club members?

I actually got a quote for $119 F+B from Bridgestone. They gave me the extra $5 per tyre when I mentioned I was part of a car club.

greenMachine · Postby **greenMachine** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:23 pm

Quite right, CB is on the money

That POS in the wall actually went in understeering, rear toe out would have put it in backwards, FWTW ... :shock:

Edit: Ooops!! didn't see that there was another page ... :roll:

land864 · Postby **land864** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:58 pm

Hey Sham

Japanese Re001's?

Can you let me know , is it a B'stone out our way?

I'm in Eltham

Post up or PM me please

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:24 am

Sorry for reviving an old thread but I'm new and looking for information...

I used to live in Singapore where cars are ridiculously expensive (think $70K for a 3 year old NC) so I didn't have the luxury of having different cars for work, play and family.

The approach I took there for tyres was to look for progressiveness because the car I drove to the track on the weekend would be the car I'd drive to work on Monday. I used a range of tyres including:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 - probably the best tyres I've had for the wet...monsoon rain on the Sepang F1 circuit, plenty of space to run off so we were hammering it in low visibility! Crap tyre in the heat - the blocks would distort!

2. Bridgestone Potenzas - can't remember the series but they were pretty good all round.

3. Toyo Proxes T1R and R1R - great grip in the dry, not so good in the wet. Not the most forgiving tyre, most undie staining moments with them.

4. Kumho Ecsta Supra - my favorite! Cheap, forgiving, good all rounder. I actually found I was consistently faster over a number of laps as they were durable too. It didn't outperform any of the tyres in any one discipline, but IMO would have bested them all overall. It would squeal like a cut pig as you feel the loss of traction, then the slow and predictable slide as you lost more grip. Very safe and fun if you weren't going outright lap times.

So...thanks for reading...just thought I'd give my 2 cents!

NC2005 · Postby **NC2005** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:47 am

zombie wrote:As you probably gathered from my post in your other thread, I'm firmly in the camp of more grip = more better

I run the stickiest tyres I can legally get away with, and it has definitely improved the fun level for me. There's no substitute for the G-forces enjoyed in high corner speeds.

What tires and rims (size, offset) you now running Matt.?

Postby **NitroDann** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:42 am

land864 wrote:shshami

$ 124 per corner F+B . WTF

I see that is for 15"

I am after Japanese made RE001's in 205 45 R16 and got quoted over $ 100 more than that per tyre F+B.

Is the discount to Vic MX 5 Club members?

The problem is that 16 inch wheels are a stupid size really. I know thats blunt but the only market for 16 inch wheels is people who have small jap cars and cant afford 17s. This is why theres no performance tyre market for them and why your 16s are MUCh more expensive than 15s.

Got to the wreckers and get a set of factory 15s off an nb.

Dann

deviant · Postby **deviant** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:56 pm

Davex3 wrote:
NitroDann wrote:This is why theres no performance tyre market for them and why your 16s are MUCh more expensive than 15s.

No performance market for 16s?

I guess R888, KU36, Proxes R1R, 595RS-R.... aren't considered performance tyres then.

On my old track MX5 it had to have 16in rims to fit over the brakes but I found that there are few optimal tyre sizes in a 16in that would work with my car. They were either to tall profile or right in the profile but to wide. Looking at R888's the 45 profile tyres are all to wide, 595 RSR only has two sizes of which one would work, KU36 only has one size which would be a smidge to wide. RE55 and A048 semi slicks have the same problems.

I ended up running R1R tyres. Of the 3 sizes they do in a 16 one of them was the size I wanted. Good tyres, quicker than a road tyre but still a way off a semi slick. Not suited to sustained lapping though.

13-15in rims are popular motorsport wheel sizes so there is a good range of tyres in those sizes and at better prices to. Dunlop slicks for the 15in rims on my race car are around $400 each.

Postby **NitroDann** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:55 pm

deviant wrote:
Davex3 wrote:
NitroDann wrote:This is why theres no performance tyre market for them and why your 16s are MUCh more expensive than 15s.

No performance market for 16s?

I guess R888, KU36, Proxes R1R, 595RS-R.... aren't considered performance tyres then.

13-15in rims are popular motorsport wheel sizes so there is a good range of tyres in those sizes and at better prices to. Dunlop slicks for the 15in rims on my race car are around $400 each.

This^^

It was a rushed post, what I should have said is that although the major manufacturers make semis in all sizes there is very little else available for some sizes apart from all season rim protectors.

Eg, in 18 inch, your choice is the cheapest rim protectors possible, aimed at the p plater who spent all their money on rims market, or you can buy very high end tyres, aimed at the porsche owner. Not much in between. This is NOT even close to true with 15's.

Dann