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Postby RG.net » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:28 pm

maxxis make a very good mountian bike tyre, i didnt know they made tyres for cars though.

the goodyear F1 seems to hold up well in both wet and dry, might do some research on them :)
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Postby SPy vs. SPy » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:53 pm

Test 5 - Lateral G Dry
1. Maxxis 1.01g
=2 Pirelli 1.00g
= Hankook
= Federal
=B'stone

Test 6 - Lateral G Wet
1. Goodyear 1.04g <<<< WTF
=2. Hankook 0.96g
= Dunlop
= Contiental

No fishmongers needed at this test . . . . :?

No PP2, why . . . the PP2 would of pulled 7 lateral G's had an apex speed faster than the space shuttle and is better than Podborski in the Slalom and Super G, nuff said 8)
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Postby d-mag » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:53 pm

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wun911 wrote:I am also not sure I would chose based on that article alone...


yer, u know something's gotta be screwy when Maxxis tyres came in number1 for non SS in the lateral G test


You never know, they may have the stiffest side wall, therefore, it may well have the worst ride comfort. They're very subjective these sorts of 'tests'.

To their credit, Maxxis do make pretty good dirt bike tyres. I've used them for years.
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Postby Alex » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:08 pm

so if you want to pull pull more g's with your goodyears make sure it's raining :shock:
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Postby Hammer » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:39 pm

bruce wrote:wow again. A Maxxis tyre came second? I thought they were just a cheap and nasty China tyre.


According to Motor, these Maxxis where made in Thailand. I wonder if they are made from the same factory as the Michellin PP2s?

I have to admit, when it came to tyres, I've been a brand snob. I've stayed away from all the Korean tyre brands (Kumho, Hankook etc) as they generally were crap in the wet. But this test has opened my eyes to other non major brand tyre.

I might just consider the Maxxis next time, considering they are nearly $400 cheaper than the Adrenalins for a set.
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Postby Alex » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:52 pm

Hammer wrote:I might just consider the Maxxis next time, considering they are nearly $400 cheaper than the Adrenalins for a set.

I'm guessing that's not for 15's if it is then for $15 a corner it's value for money :P
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Postby rjastra2 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:48 pm

SPy vs. SPy wrote:
No PP2, why . . . the PP2 would of pulled 7 lateral G's had an apex speed faster than the space shuttle and is better than Podborski in the Slalom and Super G, nuff said 8)


Michelin said they didn't have an appropriate tyre in that size
They're very subjective these sorts of 'tests'.


They are? its all about figures, seconds, g forces, brake distances. Nothing subjective about those parts of the tests at all.

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Postby SPy vs. SPy » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:05 pm

rjastra2 wrote:
SPy vs. SPy wrote:
No PP2, why . . . the PP2 would of pulled 7 lateral G's had an apex speed faster than the space shuttle and is better than Podborski in the Slalom and Super G, nuff said 8)


Michelin said they didn't have an appropriate tyre in that size
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Postby Okibi » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:11 pm

rjastra2 wrote:Read the article :)


Onya! If I had the article to read I wouldn't have to ask so many open questions.

As someone who spends money on this magazine could you be more informative?
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Postby wun911 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:59 pm

I dont understand this test but I assume its the distance it took to come to a complete stop from xx amout of speed in dry vs wet conditions. I asume that the same road and same speed was used for both wet and dry tests.

Test 4 - Wet Braking
1. Goodyear F1 38.1m << WTF
2. Dunlop SP 39.4m
3. Pirelli 39.5m

Test 3 - Dry Braking
1. B'stone Potenza 36.7m
2. Maxxis Victra 38.1m
3. Goodyear F1 38.3m << WTF

Results sugest that in the presence of H20 the silikon compound in Crapyear F1 creates some sort of an affinity to the road, thus in dry conditions it takes longer to stop. Obviously Crapyear F1s are not well suited for Australian conditions due to the lack of rain. :roll:

Next time I go to Wunton I have to do a rain dance? :lol:
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Postby wun911 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:14 am

Test 1 - Dry Slalom
1. Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE001 13.1s
2. Dunlop Sp Sport Maxx 13.2s
3. Maxxis Victra i-pro 13.3s
4. Pirelli P Zero Nero 13.3s
5. Federal 595 Evo 13.4s
6. Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 13.4s
7. Continental Sportcontact 3 13.5s
8. Goodyear Eagle F1 13.6s <<WTF

Test 2 - Wet Slalom
1. B'stone Potenza 13.2s
2. Dunlop SP 13.5s
=3. Continental Sport 3 13.6s
=3. Goodyear F1 13.6s <<WTF

Once again I dont know how this test was carried out but I assume its the time it takes to drive between xx amout of witches hats spaced over an xx distance, I only assume that the same salom setup was used for both wet and dry tests.

Im so lucky I have the Crapyear F1 thus I can pull off the same times in both wet and dry conditions? Thats kinda impressive gives that piece of mind when I speed around wet round abouts.
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Postby rjastra2 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:25 am

As someone who spends money on this magazine could you be more informative?


..... just go into a newsagent, pick up the magazine in question, scan through the test, put the magazine back on shelf... go pick up your monthly Ralph/FHM.. go to counter... pay and walk out. easy :)

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Postby RG.net » Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:19 pm

wun911 wrote:Test 1 - Dry Slalom
1. Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE001 13.1s
2. Dunlop Sp Sport Maxx 13.2s
3. Maxxis Victra i-pro 13.3s
4. Pirelli P Zero Nero 13.3s
5. Federal 595 Evo 13.4s
6. Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 13.4s
7. Continental Sportcontact 3 13.5s
8. Goodyear Eagle F1 13.6s <<WTF

Test 2 - Wet Slalom
1. B'stone Potenza 13.2s
2. Dunlop SP 13.5s
=3. Continental Sport 3 13.6s
=3. Goodyear F1 13.6s <<WTF

Once again I dont know how this test was carried out but I assume its the time it takes to drive between xx amout of witches hats spaced over an xx distance, I only assume that the same salom setup was used for both wet and dry tests.

Im so lucky I have the Crapyear F1 thus I can pull off the same times in both wet and dry conditions? Thats kinda impressive gives that piece of mind when I speed around wet round abouts.


whats wrong with that?

maybe goodyear actually intended for the F1 tyre design to work well in both wet and dry, sure its not the fastest but it does show good times in both conditions.
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Postby Caffeine » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:17 am

It says in the article the goodyear rep just shrugged and shook his head when they asked him why the tyre worked better in the wet than the dry...
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Postby Hammer » Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:14 pm

Alex wrote:
Hammer wrote:I might just consider the Maxxis next time, considering they are nearly $400 cheaper than the Adrenalins for a set.

I'm guessing that's not for 15's if it is then for $15 a corner it's value for money :P


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