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225/50x16 on NB

Postby Code4 » Sat May 21, 2016 10:25 pm

Anybody running this size on a NB8 ?
Suspension is stock height.
Rims are 16x7.

Any clearance issues ?
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby smy0003 » Sat May 21, 2016 10:51 pm

That's quite a bit bigger than stock. See here: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html.
That sounds like a Commodore sized tyre.

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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby Code4 » Sat May 21, 2016 10:53 pm

Currently running 205/45x16.

I'm trying to get a wider foot print on the road. Should I go to 15" rims ? Any suggstions welcome.
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby bigdog » Sat May 21, 2016 11:00 pm

205/50 on 16x7 +29 will rub on the plastic inner guard on the front over bumps (moderately low) so 225 would likely need some rolling and inner guard work depending on your offset.
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby Steampunk » Sat May 21, 2016 11:29 pm

Code4 wrote:I'm trying to get a wider foot print on the road. Should I go to 15" rims ? Any suggstions welcome.

Are you just going for the wide-tyre look?
If not then Stop over-thinking things and just buy the best tyres available regardless of size. A 205 series Bridgestone RE003 will far outperform a 225 series Achilles ATR (for example).

225 vs 205 is obviously larger with all things being equal, but unless you are buying he exact same tyres then there's a good chance that the difference is negligible. Firstly it's not simply 25mm extra contact patch because tyre shoulders are not perfectly square.
Secondly, (for example) the Nankang NS-2R is made with shoulders that are considerably more square than usual, whereas Federal RS-R have more rounded shoulders. Therefore you can infer that the contact patch between a 205 series NS-2R and a 225 series RS-R is definitely not 25mm.
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby Code4 » Sun May 22, 2016 10:45 am

Steampunk wrote:
Code4 wrote:I'm trying to get a wider foot print on the road. Should I go to 15" rims ? Any suggstions welcome.

Are you just going for the wide-tyre look?
If not then Stop over-thinking things and just buy the best tyres available regardless of size. A 205 series Bridgestone RE003 will far outperform a 225 series Achilles ATR (for example).

225 vs 205 is obviously larger with all things being equal, but unless you are buying he exact same tyres then there's a good chance that the difference is negligible. Firstly it's not simply 25mm extra contact patch because tyre shoulders are not perfectly square.
Secondly, (for example) the Nankang NS-2R is made with shoulders that are considerably more square than usual, whereas Federal RS-R have more rounded shoulders. Therefore you can infer that the contact patch between a 205 series NS-2R and a 225 series RS-R is definitely not 25mm.


Your right steampunk I'm overthinking it. Thats good advice and good info also bigdog. The front arch has a lot less space than the rear.
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby Luke » Tue May 24, 2016 5:23 pm

I ran 225/45/16 on 16x7 with +40 offset. This is actually the same rolling diameter as 225/50/15 which a lot of guys race on.

A 225/50/16 has increase of of sidewall height of more than 10mm over a 225/45/16, so they will likely rub.

With standard SE suspension my 225/45/16's would just clear. Front camber maxed out and rear matching at -1.5 degrees.

When I put Tein coil overs in it would just touch on the front guard liners on the worst braking zones over bumps. -3.25 degrees camber.
It would also touch slightly on those little half mud flap things at the back when running over ripple strips. -2.5 degrees camber.

So width wasn't really a problem, only the height.
You could take out the guards liners at the front but then you have the issue of dents from stones.

Over the years I have collected wheels I need with each having a purpose.
I have a set of 15x8's with 225/45/15 for the track.
Original 17x7's with 205/40/17 for rego and shows sand stuff.
And I just got a set of 205/45/16 back onto my 16x7's for motorkhanas so I don't ruin the 17's.

What do you use the car for?
What width are your 16's? When I had the 225's on the 16x7's they just never looked right, like they were being pinched.
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby Code4 » Tue May 24, 2016 6:06 pm

Use is GT and cruising with the odd 'spirited drive'. As steam punk inferred I'm looking for a wider footprint on the road.
Rims are 16x7 Mullins.

Rear looking down.
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Front but from a less elevated angle.
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I think I'll just stick with excellent quality 205/45-16's.
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby Lokiel » Tue May 24, 2016 8:15 pm

MINX rubbed his front inner liners in his SE running BFGoodrich 225/50/15s so you'll have he same problem on 16s.
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Re: 225/50x16 on NB

Postby Code4 » Tue May 24, 2016 8:34 pm

Thx for the replys.
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