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spoungy brakes post track day

Postby 16bit » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:47 pm

Hey guys after the latest track day my brakes are pretty spoungy. the fluid is dot 4 and 2 track days old as well as about 6k of road driving. I am going to replace it on the weekend but i was just wondering if you guys think that it would be the reason for the spoungy feeling. I have brand spanking slotted rotors and bendix ultimates with plenty of life in them. I have tried a few pretty firm applications and they seem to be as deglazed as they are going to get. I hope its that and not bent callipers.
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Postby Matty » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:58 pm

bleed the fluid again.

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Postby 16bit » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:36 am

will do tomorrow - if its still no good I will be back with more questions! thanks.
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Postby Boags » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:52 am

16bit wrote:will do tomorrow - if its still no good I will be back with more questions! thanks.


What fluid are you going to use? You might need to look at something like Castrol SRF if you are tracking regularly. There are some other options that people say are better than the SRF, but I can't remember them.

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Postby 16bit » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:01 am

its the expensive motul stuff from mania - i think its that 600 sf something something.

I also got some oil last night - castrol edge sport 3w 30. is that any good or should I have got 10w 60?
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Postby 16bit » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:02 am

make that rbf
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Postby Boags » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:48 am

16bit wrote:make that rbf


I think that is supposed to be fairly good stuff; I'm surprised you have cooked it so quickly. :? Time to try another brand...
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Postby 16bit » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:00 pm

no no thats what I am putting in - the other stuff is just dot 4 poo.
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Postby Boags » Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:05 pm

16bit wrote:no no thats what I am putting in - the other stuff is just dot 4 poo.

Ahhh, I see. Makes more sense that the normal poo is fecked after 2 track days. :mrgreen: My bad. :oops:
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Postby Fatty » Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:14 pm

i have the rbf600 and bendix ultimates.on my na6 brakes the ultimates were the weak link, i was having brakepad dramas after every track day - they got all glazed up etc.. deglaze the pads and the brakes were great again - so it isn't the fluid. since upgrading to na8 brakes i went with ultimates again and i think it wasn't a good choice. 1 track day and my brakes are'nt as good as they were before. i haven't had a chance to pull the pads out as yet, but i'm pretty sure my current brakes woes will be caused by the pads not the fluid. i'm planning to pull the pads out this weekend so i'll let you know how i go.

i think forced induction cars need better pads than what NA cars can get away with - we are coming into the corners a bit hotter so need more stopping power. so i think some proper race type pads are on the cards for me now on.

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Postby 16bit » Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:39 pm

i changed the fluid just then and they are still spoungy!! the fronts are still pretty well glazed - would this be causing the spoungy feeling or would it be something else? how should I de glaze the disks? Can I try to get rid of it with light sanding or is that a no no?
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Postby JBT » Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:10 pm

You won't hurt them by sanding. Roughen up the pads as well.

However, a spongy pedal is an indication of air in the system or dead fluid.
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Postby 16bit » Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:55 pm

ok I will bleed more and see if that works.
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Postby 16bit » Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:29 pm

re did the fluid all good! must have been either an air pocket or some not so good fluid still in their.
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