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Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:10 am
by GR124
I would like a 90 degree 75-65mm silicone reducer.
I can only find 63mm to fit the 65mm Throttle Body. Not having used silicon before I assume the 63mm would not go over the 65mm as well as the lip on the TB which is bigger again.

Any suggestions?

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:38 am
by Luke
Silicone generally stretches over. 2mm should not be a problem. Just use good hose clamps to hold it on.
I'm sure I have 2 inch silicone connected to my SE intercooler pipes. From memory the intercooler pipes are a strange diameter, 2 and 1/8 inches.
So that is just over 3mm of stretch.

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:49 am
by MX5NBpsi
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this is what i used as it has a nice tight radius

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:21 am
by GR124
Luke wrote:Silicone generally stretches over. 2mm should not be a problem. Just use good hose clamps to hold it on.
I'm sure I have 2 inch silicone connected to my SE intercooler pipes. From memory the intercooler pipes are a strange diameter, 2 and 1/8 inches.
So that is just over 3mm of stretch.


I wasn't sure how much it stretches, so it's pliable like the standard rad rubber hose?

MX5NB, thanks, but I have found plenty of 63mm. the issue is the TB is 65mm plus the diameter of the cast ridge/bead

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:39 am
by MX5NBpsi
you want it tight you can stretch silicon a heap i think my TB is 78-79 OD

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:56 am
by GR124
MX5NBpsi wrote:you want it tight you can stretch silicon a heap i think my TB is 78-79 OD


Cheers mate, sounds like the 63mm will do it

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:38 am
by NitroDann
A typical bead on the edge of a pipe built to accept a silicone tube/clamp is going to be 3-5mm larger than the ID of the hose across the bead. You aren't holding 20 or 30 psi of boost pressure in on a loose connection.

Dann

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:08 pm
by GR124
NitroDann wrote:A typical bead on the edge of a pipe built to accept a silicone tube/clamp is going to be 3-5mm larger than the ID of the hose across the bead.

Understand

NitroDann wrote:You aren't holding 20 or 30 psi of boost pressure in on a loose connection. Dann

Not sure if this is a question or not Dann?? I'm just hooking up some tube to the TB on a non turbo locost/clubman track car. So no pressure (at this stage)

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:19 pm
by NitroDann
Silicone on passenger cars is used alnost exclusively as a pressure carrying component. As a result a tight fit is engineered into the design.

Dann

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:38 pm
by GR124
NitroDann wrote:Silicone on passenger cars is used alnost exclusively as a pressure carrying component. As a result a tight fit is engineered into the design.

Dann


Cheers Dann, I guess a 63mm ID silicone over the 65mm TB is a tight fit. Thanks again

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:41 am
by The Zork
The best way to stretch it, is to put it in a pan of water and bring it to boil. Easy

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:14 am
by hks_kansei
I've got a 2.5inch (63mm) elbow on my throttle, went on without a problem, didn't even need to stretch much.

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:28 am
by Lokiel
The Zork wrote:The best way to stretch it, is to put it in a pan of water and bring it to boil. Easy

C'mon, this is an MX5, you SHOULD be using a hairdryer for this!
(I use my "industrrial hairdryer", a hot air gun)

Re: Silicon hose to TB

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:58 pm
by GR124
The Zork wrote:The best way to stretch it, is to put it in a pan of water and bring it to boil. Easy

hks_kansei wrote:I've got a 2.5inch (63mm) elbow on my throttle, went on without a problem, didn't even need to stretch much.


Thanks Guys, great help