NC surging under acceleration in 6th gear
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:41 pm
Hi all, have checked into a few shops, searched Google and these forums, without much avail, so hoping the brains trust might be able to help me with this one. Please bear with the lengthy descript to follow + my noobness to the forum + mx5 life.
Am in Melbourne, Australia and quite love my recently acquired ’09 NC Series 2, PRHT, 6 spd manual, with 123k kms on the clock, and it seems to operate and drive quite fantastically, with one exception – when in 6th gear (and 6th gear only), under constant throttle, the car will subtly surge for 2 seconds, and every 2 seconds, and will do so at any (6th gear) speed, i.e. 80-120km/h+.
I checked the car into a few places (privately owned + dealer run), and had a whole lot of work done, but with no difference to the effect.
First I took it to MX5 Factory down in Ringwood who:
1. Replaced air / fuel oxy sensor
2. Replaced fuel fine trim sensor
3. Replaced spark plugs (iridium)
4. Used injector cleaner (fuel) additive
5. Fuel injector clean (+ de-coke)
6. Cleaned (Throttle body/Earthing contacts/Battery terminals/Fuel rail)
7. Checked for vacuum leaks
Then, months later, I took it to Mazda Ringwood who:
1. Replaced intake manifold tuning valve
2. Performed a fuel pressure on road test, reportedly ok
3. Drove car with MMDS connected, throttle body showing variance when accelerator pedal showing steady input
So, given that I had spent a fair bit of money on things that hadn’t made any difference, so I figured I’d try and source a 2nd hand throttle body to fit and see if that made any difference – I ended up getting one from eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAZDA-MX5-TH ... OC:AU:3160), which I got Mazda Ringwood to fit for me, and it didn’t make any difference either.
The Mazda Ringwood position was that they felt it was still likely the throttle body, and that it wasn’t a true test as the one I had supplied was 2nd hand, but in my (admittedly basic) mind, even if the 2nd hand throttle body was defective, what were the odds of it being defective in the same way…? Especially given that this issue is supposedly quite rare (i.e. Mazda AU have been quite unsure about how to address also).
Just wondering what people thought about:
1. if it is likely the throttle body (i.e. if so, I would then spring for a new one + fitting)
2. if there were any other potential causes/things to look at
3. other (shops)/places that might be able to help me out
Thanks in advance!
Am in Melbourne, Australia and quite love my recently acquired ’09 NC Series 2, PRHT, 6 spd manual, with 123k kms on the clock, and it seems to operate and drive quite fantastically, with one exception – when in 6th gear (and 6th gear only), under constant throttle, the car will subtly surge for 2 seconds, and every 2 seconds, and will do so at any (6th gear) speed, i.e. 80-120km/h+.
I checked the car into a few places (privately owned + dealer run), and had a whole lot of work done, but with no difference to the effect.
First I took it to MX5 Factory down in Ringwood who:
1. Replaced air / fuel oxy sensor
2. Replaced fuel fine trim sensor
3. Replaced spark plugs (iridium)
4. Used injector cleaner (fuel) additive
5. Fuel injector clean (+ de-coke)
6. Cleaned (Throttle body/Earthing contacts/Battery terminals/Fuel rail)
7. Checked for vacuum leaks
Then, months later, I took it to Mazda Ringwood who:
1. Replaced intake manifold tuning valve
2. Performed a fuel pressure on road test, reportedly ok
3. Drove car with MMDS connected, throttle body showing variance when accelerator pedal showing steady input
So, given that I had spent a fair bit of money on things that hadn’t made any difference, so I figured I’d try and source a 2nd hand throttle body to fit and see if that made any difference – I ended up getting one from eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MAZDA-MX5-TH ... OC:AU:3160), which I got Mazda Ringwood to fit for me, and it didn’t make any difference either.
The Mazda Ringwood position was that they felt it was still likely the throttle body, and that it wasn’t a true test as the one I had supplied was 2nd hand, but in my (admittedly basic) mind, even if the 2nd hand throttle body was defective, what were the odds of it being defective in the same way…? Especially given that this issue is supposedly quite rare (i.e. Mazda AU have been quite unsure about how to address also).
Just wondering what people thought about:
1. if it is likely the throttle body (i.e. if so, I would then spring for a new one + fitting)
2. if there were any other potential causes/things to look at
3. other (shops)/places that might be able to help me out
Thanks in advance!