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Oversized oil filter

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:04 pm
by davekmoore
This is the filter on top of my relocation kit. Any thoughts on the correct replacement? It's taller than a standard one. The writing on top says WZ442 but I can't find any reference to that anywhere. There's also room to go taller again.

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Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:34 pm
by manga_blue
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Same mounting as stock.

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:05 pm
by davekmoore
So if I get a Ryco Z7148A I'll be right!?

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:06 pm
by manga_blue
Z148A. Works on mine.

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:55 am
by bruce
That's what I've got too on the sr20.

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:12 pm
by Mr Morlock
go to Bursons or a oil supplier and they will tell you. Its probably only longer to get easier access. Bigger filters are not a sign that filters are better and generally older cars had bigger filters - generalisation.

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:23 pm
by manga_blue
They sell Ryco Z148A filters for Mazdas at Bursons. :wink:

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:34 pm
by tbro
Dave
Thats a Nissan filter, using a relocated filter unit means that you won't use a Mazda filter.
Z442 ryco suits Nissan Silva, WZ442 is a Wesfil brand, PLEASE use the ryco or genuine Nissan.

Terry

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:53 pm
by emily_mx5
aside from easier access maybe, is there any benefit to using a larger filter ?

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:55 pm
by Black_Penguin
I believe the theory is they have a greater surface area so don't clog as fast as smaller one.

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:11 pm
by Danny
Wouldn't a smaller filter creates less of a pressure drop and larger is better if filter changes are missed or happen less often?
Anybody done a pressure comparison?

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:14 pm
by sailaholic
Larger filter surface area should mean less restriction at the same flow.

A thicker filter element for the same surface area would have a greater pressure drop.


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Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:15 pm
by manga_blue
Larger filters have larger filtration area, reduced flow restrictions, longer life and lower risk of blockage but they can take longer to pressurise which may affect start-up lubrication (including HLA pressurisation if you drive an NA with old lifters). Size doesn't significantly affect cost. What Mazda have tended to do is to fit the largest filter they can. Space restrictions on some motors/manifolds have been the main restriction. The Z148A is standard size for a 121 (among many other larger Mazda donks).

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:37 pm
by davekmoore
tbro wrote:Dave
Thats a Nissan filter, using a relocated filter unit means that you won't use a Mazda filter.
Z442 ryco suits Nissan Silva, WZ442 is a Wesfil brand, PLEASE use the ryco or genuine Nissan.
Terry

This'll be right then?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ryco-Oil-Fil ... 338d7f234f

By the way, the position of the relocation kit means there's virtually no restriction on how tall a filter would fit. My understanding is also that bigger means less restriction?

Re: Oversized oil filter

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:12 pm
by project.r.racing
sailaholic wrote:Larger filter surface area should mean less restriction at the same flow.
but the hole to and from the block to the filter is the same size?