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Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:32 pm
by euph0r1a
Hi all,

My '90 Roadster has a quirk where, at slow (i.e. carparks, stop signs) speeds, turning, especially right, causes the whole car to shudder/vibrate for the duration of the turn, and then return to it's normal state. It doesn't seem happen when turning a corner at speed, and never in a straight line.

Car starts up first time, every time, but occasionally does emit a high pitched squeal for a few seconds coming from towards the front of the bonnet, which then disappears and doesn't happen again. The squeal probably happens 5-10% of the time when it's turned on, usually when the wheel is already turned.

I'm pretty inexperienced when it comes to diagnosis, so any advice would be appreciated. I took it to my usual mechanic who had worked on a few 5's previously, and had no clue what was causing it.

I'm waiting for a low profile jack to be delivered to get under the car and change the diff/gearbox oils, as well as engine oil. I've just bought the car last week, and it seems to have spent most of it's time not being drĂ­ven, so it could be the VLSD needing an oil change.

Possibly the power steering? Because it only happens when the power steering would be in use, and from a bit of reading the power steering belt could possibly be loose.

Suspension seems to be original (so 20+ years old), KYB Buzz Spec adjustable shocks, could be worn/scrubbing/need a clean?

Help would be extremely appreciated, it's starting to drive me nuts!

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:33 pm
by NitroDann
It sounds like it could be a locked diff.

Do you hear the tyres? If a bystander watches the wheels do they turn normally?

Dann

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:46 pm
by slimx
this might sound dumb but i ran into this once, and just tightened up the bolts around the rear (the arms, suspension etc) and it did the trick :)

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:52 pm
by euph0r1a
Slimx, I'll definitely try that. Should be able to get under the car on Thursday and have a poke around.

Dann, I got my housemate to take a look at the wheels, they go from full lock to full lock fine. One thing I did notice though was when I hit full lock either left or right, it sounds like gas escaping/fluid running. Power steering? It stops as soon as I let off full lock.

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:57 pm
by NitroDann
That sound is power steering, I meant do the rear wheels turn like they should when turning very slowly at or near full lock.

Dann

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:00 pm
by euph0r1a
NitroDann wrote:I meant do the rear wheels turn like they should when turning very slowly at or near full lock.

Dann


Duh, that makes more sense! I'll have to find a friend and some space to take a look soon.

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:18 pm
by JBT
euph0r1a wrote:Car starts up first time, every time, but occasionally does emit a high pitched squeal for a few seconds coming from towards the front of the bonnet, which then disappears and doesn't happen again. The squeal probably happens 5-10% of the time when it's turned on, usually when the wheel is already turned........Possibly the power steering? Because it only happens when the power steering would be in use, and from a bit of reading the power steering belt could possibly be loose.....

I think you may have answered your own question. Check power steering fluid level, accessory belt wear, tension, and power steering pump in that order.

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:17 pm
by adherent
My '90 Roadster had a shudder just as you describe. Went away when I changed the diff oil.

Squealing up front could be belts - check the tensions.

Re: Slow speed turning shudder.

Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:37 pm
by M1474
There's a funner way to check if you have a locked diff.