Early B6t, super rich at idle, TPS?

AmmoJammo · Postby **AmmoJammo** » Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:30 am

No, its not an MX5, but I'm putting it here anyway!

The B6t in my KE Laser runs very rich at idle... I've attempted to adjust the TPS, which is just a switch, but it seems it could be faulty.

Will the B6t run rich at idle if the TPS isn't working? if so, how rich? I've left numerous black ash/condensation marks on driveways and walls, and it seems people don't appreciate it much? :lol:

thanks!

AmmoJammo · Postby **AmmoJammo** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:14 am

Would measuring the injector duty cycle at idle, with and without the TPS shorted out give me a reasonable indication of how rich its running?

93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:49 am

AmmoJammo wrote:I've left numerous black ash/condensation marks on driveways and walls, and it seems people don't appreciate it much?

Don't know about the B6T, but the above isn't uncommon for the B6, at least in the NA6.

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:48 am

Is it rich idle or just rich all over that leave carbon in the exhaust and it just looks worse at idle as the water actually condenses at idle carrying the carbon out with it?

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AmmoJammo · Postby **AmmoJammo** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:59 pm

hard to tell how rich it looks when driving, but I dont think its overly bad...

Issue is, the ECU that came with the engine and wiring has had basically all idle compensation and emissions wiring removed...

If it is running rich at all revs, why would it be?

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:47 pm

Factory tune on the non turbo was known to be reasonably rich.... So might be same story.

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93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:56 pm

AFR readings stock 1991 NA6 with wideband O2 sensor:
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AmmoJammo · Postby **AmmoJammo** » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:28 pm

Its all pretty much hit a brick wall anyway...

Had to remove the FMIC to fit the extra radiator fans for the aircon, can still refit the FMIC...
But I also had to remove the radiator, and discovered the top outlet is snapped in half... but then, the radiator hose really can't possibly fit with the air con compressor mounted to the block... which was the entire reason I mounted the extra fans!

*goes and sits in the corner*

AmmoJammo · Postby **AmmoJammo** » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:08 pm

93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:17 am

Is that from one startup or from many with the car in the same spot?

AmmoJammo · Postby **AmmoJammo** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:32 pm

about 10 minutes at idle.

93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:18 pm

So driveway was previously not blackened & that's what's pumping out after one startup & idle for 10 minutes? I assume there was some revving given the long plume?

Anyhow, that's way more than I've seen from an NA6 B6.

AmmoJammo · Postby **AmmoJammo** » Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:23 pm

from memory I revved it once.

car is actually on ramps in the pic, so the front was about 30cm higher than normal...

not the point!

that's pretty much what comes out the back at idle... lol