Taptaptaptaptaptaptap Noise?

bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:43 pm

Hi All,

I have developed a little tap tap tap noise. Sounds like its coming from the head but not sure.
It is at the mechanics now but can anyone give me a quick diagnosis???

Richard.

I should add we just turned up the boost to 15PSI and 173rwkw. (please dont say rods, please)
We have now turned back down to 12PSI and 156rwkw.

Willstar · Postby **Willstar** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:50 pm

It sounds like it might be going "pingpingpingpingping" rather than "taptaptaptaptaptaptap".

bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:53 pm

Definitely taptaptap, Tune is good. Tap is bad.

Willstar · Postby **Willstar** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:03 pm

Well that's me out of ideas then!

Uncle Arthur · Postby **Uncle Arthur** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:14 pm

bear2230 wrote:Hi All,

I have developed a little tap tap tap noise. Sounds like its coming from the head but not sure.
It is at the mechanics now but can anyone give me a quick diagnosis???

Richard.

I should add we just turned up the boost to 15PSI and 173rwkw. (please dont say rods, please)
We have now turned back down to 12PSI and 156rwkw.

taptaptaptaptap like lifters on startup?

bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:21 pm

taptaptaptaptap like lifters on startup?[/quote]

On start up but doesn’t go away and increases when revved. Not super noisy but you can hear from outside the car clearly

Uncle Arthur · Postby **Uncle Arthur** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:43 pm

bear2230 wrote:taptaptaptaptap like lifters on startup?

On start up but doesn’t go away and increases when revved. Not super noisy but you can hear from outside the car clearly[/quote]

So it could be that the lifters have collapsed, or perhaps your oil isn't coping?

Tried changing it?

ozi_milhouse · Postby **ozi_milhouse** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:51 pm

Did you give it a good rev at higher boost?

Did you engine brake on down shift?

it could be anything, but does it sound like piston kissing head? is it really loud?

or did you amend tune? play with idle control valve?

could be anything.

Uncle Arthur · Postby **Uncle Arthur** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:01 pm

ozi_milhouse wrote:
it could be anything, but does it sound like piston kissing head? is it really loud?

I don't believe this is physically possible in the MX5 engine is it?

bruce · Postby **bruce** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:05 pm

Yup, non-interference engine.
But, it does not sound good at all (ie. expensive).

bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:07 pm

Uncle Arthur wrote:
bear2230 wrote:taptaptaptaptap like lifters on startup?

On start up but doesn’t go away and increases when revved. Not super noisy but you can hear from outside the car clearly

So it could be that the lifters have collapsed, or perhaps your oil isn't coping?

Tried changing it?[/quote]

I'm thinking lifters have sh*t themselves. I think. Oil was changed 1 month ago at Mania when they did 25000km service.

ozi_milhouse wrote:Did you give it a good rev at higher boost?

Did you engine brake on down shift?

it could be anything, but does it sound like piston kissing head? is it really loud?

or did you amend tune? play with idle control valve?

could be anything.

High pressure fuel pump was installed and boost increased while on the dyno only. It was revved at higher boost but not over revved on down shift
Doesn’t sound like piston kissing head but haven’t heard many pistons kissing heads before. But not really loud.
play with idle control valve? I’m not sure.

project.r.racing · Postby **project.r.racing** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:09 pm

lifters or injectors

bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:15 pm

bruce wrote:Yup, non-interference engine.
But, it does not sound good at all (ie. expensive).

Mother F@#ker

bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:25 pm

project.r.racing wrote:lifters or injectors

Much better

ozi_milhouse · Postby **ozi_milhouse** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:31 pm

Yeah sorry, should have prefaced that if your engine has been cracked open before. Have heard of a couple hi comp b6 motors stretch rods and kiss the head. not pretty.

If you played with the Idle control Valve duty cycle settings (after market comp like a mega squirt) and get them wrong, it will tap like a mother f&*K