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Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:51 am
by Apu
I did a search and found that a number of people have water injection systems. Thought we could gather that info in one place, especially with summer coming.
My question is, is anyone using it on a non-turbo car? A few people I know using Aquamist for example have found substantial gains...then of course, there's the opportunity to add methanol, hehehe!
I've heard claims of it helping to clean the insides of the engine as well. Anyone actually seen that improvement?
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:08 am
by NitroDann
Ill get on in a few hours and give a decent run down.
Short answer though?
E85.
Dann
Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:14 am
by gslender
NitroDann wrote:Ill get on in a few hours and give a decent run down.
Short answer though?
E85.
Dann
No E85 sold in Brisbane. Last time I checked, water being pumped to very home.
G
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:27 am
by sailaholic
e 85 is sold in brisbane, just not at servos.
NA auto sports in slacks creek sells by the drum
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Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:07 am
by gslender
I stand corrected. Available but not convienient.
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:50 am
by NitroDann
Im on a phone, so its too hard to check, but caltex's site lists all servos with it available. When I asked the sydney boys where to get it some said it wasnt available at all. Truth was that there was about 20 servos.
The new commodore is showing strong sales with the E85 option, and it will become a standard fuel. So if it really is not available, it sure will be.
As for the convenience argument, chasing girls until your 30 isn't convenient, but its worth it
Also paying 500+ for a water injection setup, only to have to fill the tank all the time, and check it nonstop, because if it runs out, bye bye engine.
Any specific questions, about either I may be able to answer? Whos kit are you looking at? All the ones good enough if you consider your engine worth anything makes a megasquirt look like spare change, and at that point, youd chuck in the MS and tune on E85.
Dann
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:59 pm
by Hellmun
You do realize the water is a compromise there to solve a problem you don't have in a naturally aspirated car? You don't have intake temp problems and water does not produce as much power as air.
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:14 pm
by NitroDann
Yeah, I spose.
How about e85 then?
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:30 pm
by NitroDann
Brisbane has 6 servos with e85, and thats just caltex ones.
http://www.caltex.com.au/HelpCentre/SiteLocator/Pages/FindAServiceStation.aspxAnd click e85 and the click define.
Dann
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:33 pm
by Apu
I know that water injection benefits FI cars most, but a couple if owners used them in NA cars (in Asia) to "help cool intake temps".
I'm doubtful if the benefits in NA cars - marginal performance gains, but perhaps the cleaning benefit some mfrs have claimed?
I was wondering if it might be feasible for occasional benefit (eg in hot weather).
Dann - I was under the impression that you don't need to run it all the time?
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:54 pm
by NitroDann
Dont need to run what sory? e85 or water?
You dont need to run water ever
Turbo guys run it only in under heavy boost, its intended to stop knock by reducing charge temps considerably, most of its work is done in the cylinder not in the intake. Does that answer your question?
Dann
Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:28 pm
by gslender
NitroDann wrote:
And click e85 and the click define.
It's called e-Flex. Their Bio fuel and it has 85% ethanol.
Thanks Dann.
G
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:45 pm
by NitroDann
It doesnt 'have 85% ethanol'.
Dann
Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:56 pm
by gslender
Geeezz, ok "up to" 85% then ....
G
Re: Water injection
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:56 pm
by Apu
NitroDann wrote:Dont need to run what sory? e85 or water?
You dont need to run water ever
Turbo guys run it only in under heavy boost, its intended to stop knock by reducing charge temps considerably, most of its work is done in the cylinder not in the intake. Does that answer your question?
Dann
Got it! Snake oil for NA then.
E85...not so conveniently available around where I usually go for petrol at the moment.