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1.7 all motor

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:26 am
by criss
i reckon my engine will need a rebuild soon,
anyone got any information about what we need for a 1.7 motor???

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:28 am
by mazdatenfive
This will depend on what is required to be done and how bad different parts are worn.

Is it a NA6 or NA8, never seen and 1.7.

1.7 all motor

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:37 pm
by criss
Mine is a na6, Cus the engine might need a rebuild, so better just stroke it at the same time?? I know it's been done in US before, but dun know What will beinvolve , b6 engine just doesn't get the bless like the Bp engine, which got a stroke kit off the shelf =[

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:12 pm
by Jeo
From memory there's a few decent thread on miata.net on the subject. I'd suggest having a look there.

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:57 pm
by jerrah
I did a google search and found this thread of someone building a 1.7: http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=18582

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:49 pm
by yuge
i am actually in the process of building a 1.7L motor.

I bought Toda Hi-comp pistons which were 3mm oversize. Giving a total of 1722cc
Usually wouldnt have needed to resleeve, but my engine builder found air bubbles after machining out the block.
So got two new sleeves.

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:13 pm
by NitroDann
Criss I could have just PMd you back with this info, but the block wont handle a 3mm overbore AND boost, its one or the other.

Dann

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:43 pm
by criss
jeo&jerrah. thank for that guys=] found that very useful

yuge, anything you put in the engine as well??? may i know whats your plan wif the engine?? going hi profile cam and itb?

dann, didn't get your pm regarding to this,
but i do get the pm regarding to the bsb issue=]

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:39 pm
by yuge
pm'd

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:12 pm
by Matty
To the people doing this or wanting to - Why?
Not a facetious question, just curious for your motivations to do this rather than the alternatives that are much easier, cheaper and give better results.

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:14 pm
by broady
criss, your car is a street car, right? If you want a bit more grunt, why not transplant a 1.8? Rebuilding and boring/stroking the 1.6 will cost a lot.

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:45 pm
by NitroDann
Matty wrote:To the people doing this or wanting to - Why?
Not a facetious question, just curious for your motivations to do this rather than the alternatives that are much easier, cheaper and give better results.


And to broady,

Have a drive of my all motor 130rwhp 1.6, Its as fun as hell. And maintenance free.
And an exhaust and intake more than evens up the 1.6 vs 1.8 battle. why go to all the effort of a swap?

Dann

Re: 1.7 all motor

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:07 pm
by broady
NitroDann wrote:
Matty wrote:To the people doing this or wanting to - Why?
Not a facetious question, just curious for your motivations to do this rather than the alternatives that are much easier, cheaper and give better results.


And to broady,

Have a drive of my all motor 130rwhp 1.6, Its as fun as hell. And maintenance free.
And an exhaust and intake more than evens up the 1.6 vs 1.8 battle. why go to all the effort of a swap?

Dann

I don't doubt it at all. 1.8 swap is well documented and not a great amount of effort.

1.7 all motor

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:21 pm
by yuge
My main reason for doing up the 1.6l is that I already had a set of itb sitting at home. Also a set of headers. So didn't want to get new headers or remake a set of inlet manifolds to match the itb.

1.7 all motor

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:54 pm
by criss
It's true that turbo is a easier and cheaper option to increase the power, but even they can both make foe example 150 atwhp, they still feel different, and I like the non turbo feel, also If I go to the turbo route, I have to ditch all the effort I put on the car, I just dun want to see this happen=]
And I believe my 1.6 should be able to keep up with a 1.8, so 1.8 swap is not an option atm, unless I found a cheap one, and I will still do the exact same thing to it, just my 2.2c( gst included)

I might sound silly, but how can u say no to a done up engine with instance respond =]