Page 1 of 1

Diagnosis needed: Car stalling on start up

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:24 am
by 93_Clubman
Fuel, air & heat (combustion triangle) - see Rotary's excellent posts:
:Rotary wrote:Have you checked for spark?

That way you know for 100% certainty that you have an electrical/Ignition fault.

If there is spark then its almost certainly fuelling related unless the plugs are foul or spark is not regular.

:Rotary wrote:Can check spark a couple of ways.

By putting a new spark plug on one of the leads and making sure its metal (side or base) is earthing, anywhere there is a good earth connection(usually an exposed bolt attached to the chassis or the inlet manifold).

If your unsure and have a multi-meter then check it, otherwise you could damage something.

The other way is if you have an old ignition lead with end exposed, that will work without a spark plug but you must keep a 1cm gap between it and earth.

Then just turn the ignition and watch or listen for loud snapping noises.

Just need to be certain there’s no fuel leaks or spilt fuel anywhere as it may ignite it, so if there a strong fuel smell then don’t do it.

Or without checking for spark, you can just get a can of Starting Fluid, from any Autoshop, and spray a good amount in the throttle body, with it on full throttle, then try and kick it over.

If there is any kick or it starts briefly, it has spark and no fuel, no kick at all, will most likely mean no spark (so electric or ignition issue).


Another easy way to check if it's fuel related is to turn the engine over a few times & then immediately remove a spark plug to see if it's wet from fuel.

Air might seem to obvious, but it's worth checking there are no major restrictions, especially if the car is a recent purchase or has been worked on recently. Just after I bought my old NA6 I found an old cloth had been sucked into the airbox snorkle.

Diagnosis needed: Car stalling on start up

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:04 pm
by Okibi
Check the connection to your air flow meter and that the hose hasn't popped off your intake runner/cam cover.

Diagnosis needed: Car stalling on start up

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:08 am
by 93_Clubman
did you check for spark?

failed/ failing coilpack on nb8a is a reasonably common problem.

visitors allowed? :D

Diagnosis needed: Car stalling on start up

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:58 pm
by 93_Clubman
Bruce will be disappointed - he missed the chance to say 'plug leads' & be right. :D

Deteriorated plug leads are even more common problem on MX5s, but usually not to the point of precluding the car from starting. Usually they cause intermittent or more frequent poor running & get replaced as a result.

Diagnosis needed: Car stalling on start up

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:29 pm
by Uncle Arthur
I've suggested it before and I'll do so again - check the (green) engine temp sensor at the back of the block. When cold it triggers the "choke". When it is playing up it reads the same voltage (or lack thereof) as if the car was cold and dumps in too much fuel. When it isn't plugged in the car won't even start.

Replacing mine fixed all sorts of intermittent problems.

Diagnosis needed: Car stalling on start up

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:42 pm
by Insurgence
Hi,

I've had coil pack and fuel pump issues before.

If its an intermittent problem then I would say likely to be coil pack.

lumpy would indicate that one set of coil packs is playing up. next time it goes lumpy, pull out the leads from one set of coil packs and see if it has any effect. either you pull the ones from the non-functioning coil pack or from the functioning one.

if you start it and its lumpy there is also a trick to "convince" the non-working coil pack to work:
pull out one lead from the non-functioning coil pack (by now you will have worked out which one doesnt work), then slowly plug it back - it'll start arcing and magically work. hey. worked for me anyway. you'll need to do this every time it doesn't function. use at own risk :shock: