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Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:59 pm
by SuperMazdaKart
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Add my name to the list of a rare few who've been victims of the worn keyway on a 1.8 engine!

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Not only, that the timing belt pulley has been wearing the face of the oil pump so the mechanic wasn't confident in replacing the crank oil seal as it may not hold in place.

So much for trying to keep the car lowish in kilometres (142,000K now) & in good nick. This is going to lower the value a bit..

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:03 pm
by Jeo
Spewing...

So whats the plan then?

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:13 pm
by SuperMazdaKart
Don't know. Hope it lasts till 200,000ks then get it rebuilt with another crank. Now to just flippin find out if the BPT crank from a TX3 or GTX is the same spec.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:56 pm
by bensale
Failure of the 1.8 cranks is a lot more common than most people think, just not quite as common as the 1.6... I really feel for you mate :(

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:58 pm
by project.r.racing
crank is longer in MY92+ models.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:11 pm
by 16bit
2.1 maruha kit?

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:48 pm
by Woo
Just cut a new keyway on the other side :idea:

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:52 pm
by SuperMazdaKart
Woo wrote:Just cut a new keyway on the other side :idea:


thats actually what the mechanic did. machined a new key in the shape of the worn out area.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:42 am
by Steampunk
That sux Vu.
Do you know if the problem originated from the previous owner/s who's had the key replaced and it was placed the wrong way round?

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:53 pm
by SuperMazdaKart
it might of been the mechanics who did the first timing belt service, they did it early though at about 85,000ks so maybe the waterpump was leaking.

car seemed fine on power when i got it at 130,000ks so i wonder if the prior owner did something just before i bought it. mechanic did say the current waterpump looks new.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:53 pm
by JBT
Maybe the pulley bolt wasn't replaced and/or properly torqued.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:17 pm
by manga_blue
The real problem is that the design of the long nosed crank is almost as bad as the design of the short nosed one. The hub pulley boss on the long nosed version still has 3/4 of its depth not supported either by the key or the crankshaft nose. It just looks totally dodgy.

There's usually extra load on the 1800s too since many more of them carry power steer and A/C.

So far the focus has been on short nosed crank problems but I reckon we'll see more and more of these as the 1800 engines get well beyond their 100,000km service. Mine started to fail at 150,000.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:31 pm
by SuperMazdaKart
IMO the only thing better about the 1.8 is the bigger bolt is less likely to get fatigued. Thats it.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 10:08 pm
by JBT
The problem is that the bolt thread deforms on the first use (that's how it locks) and should be replaced upon removal because it may never properly lock again.

Worn crank keyway - on a 1.8L!

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:21 pm
by irwin83r
16bit wrote:2.1 maruha kit?

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