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same timing belts?
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:50 pm
by RG.net
does anyone know if the 1.6 and 1.8 timing belts are the same? i was planing to run a timing belt w/o air con, but gates dont seem to make them for the nb? i'm not sure if nb's came optional with a/c or not like the na's did. Does anyone know of any other timing belts that fit the 1.8 with out a/c?
thanks
same timing belts?
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:37 pm
by JBT
That's a drive belt, not the timing belt.
same timing belts?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:15 pm
by RG.net
ok then drive belt, isnt it the same thing? or is the b6-bp a special engine or something?
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:30 pm
by AJ
no, the drive belt (or fan belt) runs off the crankshaft to turn the alternator, water pump, power steering & aircon.
The cam belt (timing belt/timing chain depending on engine) runs off the crankshaft behind closed doors (cam belt cover) to keep the cams/valve train in perfect synchronisation with the crankshaft so the the engine does all it's stuff properly.
there is nothing special about the B6 - BP engine, it's exactly the same as any other internal combustion engine, they are all SSBB configuration, the glaring exception is the rotary which has no valve train.
in answer to your question, I'd ask a Mazda dealer (or ford), I'm sure there are plenty of other models that ran the 1.8 BP sans aircon, just a matter of finding one the right length
same timing belts?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:37 pm
by Fatty
"engines for dummies" explanation:
drive belt outsidey engine, timing belt insidey engine.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:32 pm
by RG.net
intresting that, might need to have another look at my belt(s) then, i swear they are the same.
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:49 am
by Rotary
MXHEVN wrote:intresting that, might need to have another look at my belt(s) then, i swear they are the same.
yeah the two belts you see are the same, but as the others have said neither are called timing belts. you'll have to start pulling your engine apart if you want to have a look at that one
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:33 pm
by JBT
I've never seen an NB in Australia without air con.
Anyway, see the attached diagram. It shows the part numbers for a USA market NB but should be similar for the Australian market. Check with a Mazda dealer.
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:49 pm
by RG.net
wow i feel like a blonde
i really should of known that, just had a look at the drive pully and saw the 2 belts. i was hoping to get a gates timing belt, i wonder if gates make a drive belt also (iirc moss motors states they do for the na, this is probably why i got confused)
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:42 pm
by RG.net
ok gates only make timing belts, got the drive belt from my local repco, now i just need to change it ... any info?
i was told the gold brackets loosen the belt but i have had no luck.
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:06 pm
by RG.net
never mind, got it
thanks guys for clearing everything up
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:58 pm
by TieNN89
what do you mean gates do make a drive belt
i got both
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:27 am
by ampz
Gold brackets?
You have taken bling to a whole new level
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:13 pm
by RG.net
AZNTieN wrote:what do you mean gates do make a drive belt
i got both
must be the alternator and waterpump belt, i rang gates australia and they said they didnt make the p/s belt.
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:14 pm
by RG.net
ampz wrote:Gold brackets?
You have taken bling to a whole new level
hey, it was like that when i got it
i'm not really good at explaining things online, but i know what i am on about
