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NC Gearbox

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:36 pm
by @ndrew
Been doing a bit of reading on the US mx5 forums and the following thread has gotten me worried :shock: considering i should be picking up my new nc in a few days!

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=273813

Anyone here had any similar issues or trouble??

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:53 pm
by AJ
don't take too much notice of the yanks mate, they expect a rolls royce ride from an open sportscar.........& reading the thread entirely (even though they make my head ache) this guy sounds like he's trolling for controversy :)

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:40 am
by Casey
AJ wrote:this guy sounds like he's trolling for controversy :)



:mrgreen: 8) :mrgreen:

takes one to know one

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:44 pm
by bigdog
everyone knows that SP 6 speeds are superior to either of the NC boxes - they use special internals made from unobtanium that give SP drivers that extra 'something' when pressing on... :P :mrgreen: :P

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:52 am
by Daz
bigdog wrote:everyone knows that SP 6 speeds are superior to either of the NC boxes - they use special internals made from unobtanium that give SP drivers that extra 'something' when pressing on... :P :mrgreen: :P


I heard that SP gearboxes were hand assembled by supermodels and any parts that did not meet their strict tolerances were sent to the SE factory.

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:08 pm
by Casey
masami wrote:Nothing to worry about. my NC is as noisy as a diesel truck. Drives ok.
you will notice it more @ low speeds and windows up.


At least AJ will be used to that then :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:24 pm
by Garry
Speaking of diesel trucks, have the NC owners noticed their gearbox making a rattly noise when idling in neutral on a hot day after a long drive? It sounds just like a diesel. My car was doing it a bit on our trip in January and I was getting a bit worried until I parked next to Kuntry Kuzzin's NC and his car was making the same noise only twice as loud. :shock: It was quite noticable on the NC some distance away from the car. When both cars cooled down they both stopped making the noise

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:42 pm
by Craig
Daz wrote:I heard that SP gearboxes were hand assembled by supermodels and any parts that did not meet their strict tolerances were sent to the SE factory.


*Checks Daz's address on the old membership database for where his SP is garage to enable stealing of said gearbox!*

:P :twisted: :lol:

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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:32 pm
by AJ
Casey wrote:
masami wrote:Nothing to worry about. my NC is as noisy as a diesel truck. Drives ok.
you will notice it more @ low speeds and windows up.


At least AJ will be used to that then :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


WHAT???.........CAN'T HEAR YA FOR ALL THE SP OWNERS WHINING IN THIS THREAD :P :lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:05 am
by Garry
I wasn't WHINING AJ, I was asking a question. :roll:

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:05 am
by bigdog
he can't hear you over the noise from his gearbox Garry :mrgreen: :roll: :P

Seriously though, this sounds like a definite concern - has the box design changed to the point where they have stuffed it up? And Garry - how come your box is noisy in neutral??

Some box designs allow the selector forks to rattle (Alfasuds particularly - saved me $2000 when I bought mine as I convinced the sales guy that the big end bearings were shot and I was doing him a favour by taking it off his hands 8) 8) 8) ) but i haven't heard any noise from mine at idle. What about the serious racers among us - any symptoms after a hard race showing up? Maybe it's just Garry's jinx..... :P

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:21 am
by Garry
It could be the selector forks BD. If you move the selector a little it stops. Strange that it goes away when everything cools down though. I was starting to worry about my gearbox until I heard the noise KK's car was making. Then I wasn't worried as much. I haven't heard my gearbox make the noise since that trip. Maybe it was just the extreme conditions at play.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:41 pm
by Benny
I haven't heard any sounds from my gearbox, hot or cold.

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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:00 pm
by AJ
Garry wrote:I wasn't WHINING AJ, I was asking a question. :roll:


that post wasn't directed at you garry :)

as for the question, i've never noticed any excessive noise from ours, hot or cold, what sort of gearbox oil is KK running??.........maybe it gets a bit thin when temps are high??......dunno :?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:15 am
by JBT
Yes, both mine have rattled a bit in neutral (clutch out) but only when fully hot - seems to be the nature of the beast. I can only hear it top down, stereo volume low, in the garage though - agree with Garry that it may be the selectors. The NA8 seemed to do it a little bit as well but it was hard to pick over all the other NA NVH - entirely different tranny anyway.

The occasional growling noise at lowish RPM (below 2000 RPM but not under load) has me puzzled but I still think it is an exhaust harmonic. Red Max doesn't seem to be making that noise as much as Bloo Max did.

Just ran up 5,000km over the first 3 weeks of ownership and Red Max is going like a rocket...........and returned better than 6.7 l/100km in the cruise on the highway top up or down, aircon on or off - love this car :mrgreen: .