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Postby corners » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:28 pm

Hi

I am getting a vented headlight cover shortly to truly have a CAI. However i currently have a HKS Element Pod filter
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My question is are these water resistant?

I did a search on the forum and on google and couldn't find any info about it


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Postby AB7 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:44 pm

nope, air filter has to let air in...so water can get in there too

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Postby Steampunk » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:51 pm

It's made of open-cell foam so .....
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Postby corners » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:32 pm

Damn!!!

Gotta try and find a K & N to suit....

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Postby green_comet » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:03 pm

Get a Small Unifilter Compact Rampod.. http://www.unifilter.com.au
goto products, rampods &intakes.

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Postby stevesports » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:05 pm

i wouldn't use a K&N. It is a oiled cotton element which could create havoc on the AFM. Best to use a non-oiled element like polyurethane.
Those DR/FT filters are polyerethane and cost approx $40 at autobarn.

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Postby corners » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:28 pm

So whats wrong with a K&N i thought they were the best to use as they are somewhat oil soaked they can keep the water out...?

I am not sure fif the unifilter will fit?

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Postby Steampunk » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:29 pm

Don't go spending extra on another ram-pod, just shield the pod from incoming dirt and water.
HKS know what they are doing as the internal bell-mouth design of the one in your picture has been the best around for more than a decade.

As with foam and gauze filters that use oils, they are only harmful to AFM's if you over-oil them . The oil is not meant to deter water, although it does, it's to trap dirt.

K&N's gauze design have been, and are still, the best flowing element , although high-powered turbo cars shouldn't use them cause the extra suction of fast-spool turbos simply suck the dirt straight through the gauze.

Unifilter make LOTS of different sizes of pod and hose-fittings so you will definitely find one that fits.
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Postby corners » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:35 pm

1red5 wrote:Don't go spending extra on another ram-pod, just shield the pod from incoming dirt and water.
HKS know what they are doing as the internal bell-mouth design of the one in your picture has been the best around for more than a decade.


Any suggestions of who could make a sheild in the brissy area?

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Postby Steampunk » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:42 pm

16bit is pretty handy, shoot him a PM.
Otherwise just draw up a design and make one yourself.
SAAS make generic ram-pod heat shields. Go you your local Autobarn or Repco and check it out

Is the filter going to be sitting right next to the headlight intake?, like a few centimetres away? If not, then I wouldn't worry about water getting into the filter.

Go look at the \"My rides\" section and check out rossint's car.
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Postby corners » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:47 pm

1red5 wrote:16bit is pretty handy, shoot him a PM.
Otherwise just draw up a design and make one yourself.
SAAS make generic ram-pod heat shields. Go you your local Autobarn or Repco and check it out

Is the filter going to be sitting right next to the headlight intake?, like a few centimetres away? If not, then I wouldn't worry about water getting into the filter.

Go look at the "My rides" section and check out rossint's car.


Yeah my filter is in the same location....

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Postby wun911 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:04 pm

Oh dam I use a K&N with oil I have often wondered if the oil was ever sucked off the filter...
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Postby stevesports » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:28 pm

you can buy my dry type pod filter wun =].

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Postby kula » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:38 pm

wow, some interesting comments here.

personally, I would never run a foam filter.
their filtration is just crap.

pipercross are the only ones which id consider, but they arent exactly foam.

K&N are the best for good reason, they filter very well, and flow well too.

no after market (that I've seen) filter filters as well as an OEM paper element.

so if you are worried about filtration, stick with paper.

K&N are cotton, and I've never heard to turbos sucking dust through the gauze.. I've seen them used on 1000kw+ cars with success.

Many aftermarket filters do use some oil, so they can affect some hot wire airflow meters. if you have an NA with a vane meter, theres no way it will affect it.

Unifilter filters are generally very oily, more so than K&N.

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Postby corners » Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:44 pm

So for my CAI how do i use a paper filter. I can only really use a POD.


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