ecu choice for 98 nb & avo kit GONE EMANAGE ULTIMATE

[sprx3]

hey guys ive just put the avo kit on order & am stuck on what ecu i should use, i dont really want to go with the avo 5th injector job & have been looking at emanage blue & ultimate but am told that they are hard to tune & everyone i have spoken to dont want to touch it, if i have to i will go a stand alone but would have to go 2nd hand as i have a budget of $1k + tuning.

what have nb owners done & how is it going.

oh i have 550cc injectors for the install which im told the emb wont run nicely but the emu will, if i have to i will go a smaller injector.....its all too hard .....

help
Zoran

[Uncle Arthur]

have been looking at emanage blue & ultimate but am told that they are hard to tune & everyone i have spoken to dont want to touch it

Hard to tune??? - what a crock!!!!!!!!!

I had no troubles and I set it all up myself.

Sounds like your potential tuners are a bunch of skirt wearing nancies.....

Check out www.miataturbo.net

[ampz]

www.miataturbo.net is wyou friend.

There are a few turbo Nb's there with Emanage amongst other ECUs.

[Fatty]

megasquirt ? they have a section for it at that website too.

[sprx3]

um i think the squirt is out of my league !!

so has anyone played with the emu yet?

[CT]

I would suggest a Haltech E8 with boost solenoid and wideband if you really want a great, cost effective solution. My race car runs this setup and it's very good. Most tuners will happily tune the Haltech too which is something you can't say about all aftermarket ECUs. Of course, there are others available too, but I am slightly Haltech biased.

[sprx3]

I would suggest a Haltech E8 with boost solenoid and wideband if you really want a great, cost effective solution. My race car runs this setup and it's very good. Most tuners will happily tune the Haltech too which is something you can't say about all aftermarket ECUs. Of course, there are others available too, but I am slightly Haltech biased.

hey CT thats just way out my price range, i think im going to go with the emanage ultimate and get a wide band sensor for it and that will take care of most of the tuning leaving me to clean up maps to get it running nice...

does anyone else run an emu?

[Craig]

does anyone else run an emu?

No they run to fast for me!

[16bit]

thats a hard one. to get a good piggy back comp it is going to set you back 1k then you will have to put install and tuning on that. If you want something that tuners will look at you probably won't get much change out of 2k if any at all by the time you are done with it. i have also been refused on e manage before but i spose its more of a if you can tune it yourself jobby. I would give a few local places a call and flat out give them your budget and ask what you can get for it.

[CT]

I would suggest a Haltech E8 with boost solenoid and wideband if you really want a great, cost effective solution. My race car runs this setup and it's very good. Most tuners will happily tune the Haltech too which is something you can't say about all aftermarket ECUs. Of course, there are others available too, but I am slightly Haltech biased.

hey CT thats just way out my price range, i think im going to go with the emanage ultimate and get a wide band sensor for it and that will take care of most of the tuning leaving me to clean up maps to get it running nice...

does anyone else run an emu?

Perhaps you should look at running a Haltech Interceptor - much better solution with the ability to run integrated wideband and boost control. It will cost a little more than your perhaps unrealistic budget of $1000, but the tuning is a doddle and there's heap of haltech tuners around. The ECU is the most important part of the system and it is way too often overlooked. Also, we have excellent support for the MX5 from Haltech themselves so should you need it, it is there.

[jules]

does anyone else run an emu?

No they run to fast for me!

[Okibi]

If you have the cash get a Motec; if you don't then get one of the new Wolfs.

Megasquirt is no more than a fancy pr0n name.

Stick to something your local tuner knows how to use. Dyno time is expensive.

[Okibi]

Oh, i'm not ignorant I know what it does and i've looked at the software.

BUT as far as i'm concerned, having someone build their own kit leaves margin for error.

Having a tuner use software their unfamiliar with leaves margin for error.

I would be foolish for me to recommend it because there's too many uncertainties and i'd hate to give someone advice that i'd regret later.

Lighten up.

[sprx3]

The ECU is the most important part of the system and it is way too often overlooked.

exactly!!!!!!!!!

If you can afford an avo turbo kit you can afford to buy a decent ecu. I'd find some reputable local tunners see what they recomend and spend the $$$ even if you have to wait a while to save up

this way you get something that works, decent power and safe. instead of buying a cheap pile that gives you an average tune that runs rich, lean, has flat spots or end up with cold start issues, poor idle etc.

I'm sure you'd be kicking yourself if you get a cheap pile installed to find it won't idle, it runs rich down low and then leans out up top and only gives you 105rwkw then 6months down the track you melt a piston after going for a spirited run on a warm day.

I am glad to hear you are looking after the fuel properly with bigger injectors. it'd be nice to see you finish it off with a good computer and tune. you could then be a proud owner of a very well sorted 5 with 150rwkw

so are you talking from experience of using an emanage ultimate, or just from what you have read about the emanage blue?? as they are both very different units, installation wont be a problem guys, i can do that as well as having a few mates that do this stuff all day long, they can also help with tuning so i dont think $1k is unrealistic, oh & i asked one of them about the e8 & his words where "dont touch it" so unless you can give me specifics as to why you think its a better unit & back it up with experience from both units i think its unfair to say that one unit is better then another.

what i would like is people using emanage blue or ultimate to tell me the ups & downs of the unit & how they find it, pro's con's & so forth & also if anyone has used the autotune feature on them


oh & the squirt is a great unit, a mate ran it on his s2 rx7 & loved it, what i dont want is the set up time it takes to set it up.

[CT]

Megasquirt is no more than a fancy pr0n name.

The Megasquirt is a great little ECU that is at least as good as a Haltech and its only $200 US. And all of the tuning software is free and the base code is under continuous development as it is open source.

It is also unique as it offers people the chance to both build and tune their own ECU.

Your childish comment only shows everyone your ignorance and does not offer anything remotely useful to the discussion.

Hey Steve, I have no doubts that the megasquirt is a good product, but to say that it's at least as good as the Haltech and where they are at the moment would be a stretch. I have some more knowledge than most having a development car and being privvy to what Haltech are doing in the mazda space. Suffice to say, Haltech now offer E8 and E11s with the ability to control the NB field control alternator and the VVT and use all OEM sensors out of the box. This is not common knowledge outside the MX5 racing community but Haltech have spent a lot of time and money working with many of us to achieve great things for the MX5. We also now have excellent results with the Haltech Interceptor and the stock ECU.

sprx3 - your mates have NFI about E8s and the MX5 so I doubt I'd take their advice.

This is by no way meant to hassle or put down the mega, or indeed any other ECU. But, you don't know, what you don't know.....if that makes sense. This is also why I personally, would recommend the Haltech ECUs for the MX5. I've been part of the pain so I'd like to see people benefit from the work that's been done so far.