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LSD help??

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:08 pm
by travyMX5
hi all just a few diff questios. car i am wanting to install into is a NB8A.

1- what do the imports come with a torsen centre or a clutch type LSD?? whats the standard ratio?? is it a straight centre swap or centre and more??

anyone got one for sale haha ?

thanks guys

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:22 pm
by Babalouie
Depends.

NA8/NB8 imports will have either an open diff or a torsen. Clutch diffs were never offered as an option so if you find a second hand one it'll be aftermarket.

Stock ratios in Japan are...4.1 and 4.3 for NA8, not sure about the NBs

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:25 pm
by marcusus
MX5 racing are selling a Torsen off I think a NB8C. See here:
http://www.aus-cartalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=26215

diff

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:40 pm
by travyMX5
ok stupid question i know.....
my mate has a na 1.6 mx5 with a clutch type lsd.....would this centre bolt straight into my nb8a diff housing ?
or would it require alot more work to make it work?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:54 pm
by StanTheMan
If yours is a 1.8 diff it will not fit.

I think..... NA6 is 6\"
NA8 onwards they are 7\"
NB8a diffs are therefore too big.

There is no cheap way of getting an LSD.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:29 pm
by flycasta
A complete Torsion centre off the forum is probably the best option or get just the Torsion LSD from someone. Lately they have been selling for around $600 and then you just install it into your diff.

If you want a clutch pack type you need to get a Normally Aspirated N/A Series 4 RX7 type, I believe they have the inside of the side gears machined differently to the series 3 RX7, for the circlips to fit into them. When I have compared 2 sets of side gears there was differences in them.

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:47 pm
by EGG80X
just weld the diff up mate

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:27 pm
by Alex
I'm also looking for one for my NB8A,
a torsen for $600?? where from and is that second hand?
are the ones mania sell second hand or new?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:37 pm
by StanTheMan
The ones from mania you need to also factor in fitting the crown wheel to the diff centre. You could use your existing one. If you can't do it yourself add about another $300 on top of that. I think. If you take it to them.....prolly be a lot cheaper

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:25 pm
by pcmx5
SM wrote:I'm also looking for one for my NB8A,
a torsen for $600?? where from and is that second hand?
are the ones mania sell second hand or new?


i am seroiusly thinking of removing my 4.1 torsen to fit a 3.9 and 6 speed.

The LSD was out of a 10AE which had done 10000klms and was fitted to my 4.1 crown wheel and pinion at around 56000klms. It is great and has now done 72000klms total for the CWP and about 26000klms for the torsen.

Not a lot of work to fit and i would be looking for $1000 all up.

Peter

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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:20 pm
by Woo
pcmx5 wrote:The LSD was out of a 10AE which had done 10000klms Peter


Ahh so you got the Torsen from Dicks 10AE, I have the motor 8)
I checked the paperwork and it had 7500k's on it.
Good to see that a few of us can benifit from others mishaps.

Wòó

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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:56 am
by pcmx5
Woo wrote:
pcmx5 wrote:The LSD was out of a 10AE which had done 10000klms Peter


Ahh so you got the Torsen from Dicks 10AE, I have the motor 8)
I checked the paperwork and it had 7500k's on it.
Good to see that a few of us can benifit from others mishaps.

Wòó


Hi Woo,

No it wasn't from that car but from DriftFury, down here in Geelong.

Was the 6 speed still at Dick's?

I have 3.9 lsd, but am looking for a (preferably low klms) 6 speed.

I had the money put away for that before we decided to go overseas and I sold the Italia.

Peter.

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:24 pm
by Woo
I'm fairly sure Dick still has the 6 sp and hasn't sold it yet. I will check this afternoon when I call in (new steering rack for me) I'll let you know how much he wants for it.

Are you looking at FI later on Peter? If so, I would recommend holding onto the 5 sp as the ratios have a wider spacing so you can take advantage of the increased torque rather than spending all your time changing gears.

Sorry for the hijack travy
Wòó

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:01 am
by pcmx5
Hi Woo,

I rang Dick yesterday but he wasn't in, will try again today.

No I don't think i will ever go Turbo I am happy with the power I have now, just think the closer spacing of the 6 speed will suit my car.


Peter

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:04 pm
by pcmx5
Can anyone tell me if the complete diff from an NB fits into an NA8A without having to change the halfshafts or the tailshaft ;also does an 6 speed require a change of tailshaft to go into an NA8A.?

I have double posted this (same questions in For Sale section), Sorry

Peter.