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whats the diff

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:42 pm
by kula
ok, i need an LSD.

My engine is basically stock, but even so I find the open diff anoying.

now I have a 1.8 conversion ready to go (thanks Lou)
but I need a good center for it.

I can get a tomei 2 way at a similar price to a newish torsen center.

Understeer concerns me.
lifting off mid corner concerns me.
i dont mind noise.

what do you do?

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:38 pm
by StanTheMan
Kula....
You are more than welcome todrive mine. This will help you work out if you want a torsen.....or not. :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:11 pm
by kula
cool..

fish and chips run anyone?

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:53 pm
by StanTheMan
mmmm. yea.....i'd be up for that.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:43 am
by Inf3ct0R
you also welcome to drive my worn out 1.5 way! :P

but if understeer concerns you then the winnar is the torsen

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:36 am
by Blue94t
My MX5 has a torsen and when it starts to wheelspin in 2nd gear in a straight line you can feel the torsen biasing from side to side. I have also noticed the same thing in my brothers Datsun 1600 which has a SR20det fitted.
My personal preference is a clutch pack LSD. I have owned and dríven torsens, viscous, and clutch pack lsds and for consistancy nothing compares to a good clutch pack lsd.
Jake

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:40 am
by Inf3ct0R
Blue94t wrote:My MX5 has a torsen and when it starts to wheelspin in 2nd gear in a straight line you can feel the torsen biasing from side to side. I have also noticed the same thing in my brothers Datsun 1600 which has a SR20det fitted.
My personal preference is a clutch pack LSD. I have owned and dríven torsens, viscous, and clutch pack lsds and for consistancy nothing compares to a good clutch pack lsd.
Jake


I concur, until they get worn out! LOL

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:43 am
by Babalouie
Inf3ct0R wrote:you also welcome to drive my worn out 1.5 way! :P

but if understeer concerns you then the winnar is the torsen


Already? You only got that like 6mths ago :)

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:29 pm
by kula
a kaaz 1.5 way is similarly priced to all three options too..

so they are:

OEM torsen
Kaaz 1.5way
Tomei Technical Trax 2 way

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:45 pm
by StanTheMan
there is the type 2 & type 1 OEM torsens but i'm not exactly sure how they differ.
mine is the type 2


maybe someone can explain the difference?

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:20 pm
by Inf3ct0R
Babalouie wrote:
Inf3ct0R wrote:you also welcome to drive my worn out 1.5 way! :P

but if understeer concerns you then the winnar is the torsen


Already? You only got that like 6mths ago :)


yes boss, already travelled 20,000km.... and only like twice on the track :(

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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:10 pm
by Babalouie
Inf3ct0R wrote:
Babalouie wrote:
Inf3ct0R wrote:you also welcome to drive my worn out 1.5 way! :P

but if understeer concerns you then the winnar is the torsen


Already? You only got that like 6mths ago :)


yes boss, already travelled 20,000km.... and only like twice on the track :(


Ah ok, well I reckon that's normal. Re-shim at 25k, replace clutch plates at 50k. If you take it to Laing Diffs he'll be able to take the diff apart and re-adjust the preload back up again. It usually only works once tho before you run out of adjustment.

And yeah if I were doing it again I'd just stick with the torsen. My 2 way Mazdaspeed is a little better but the torsen never wears out.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:58 pm
by Okibi
I'd go a torsen too.

If your going to go turbo later and want a strong clutch pack lsd look at the cusco and not the kaaz.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:38 pm
by Babalouie
BTW the Luce is getting a torsen too, so read into that what you will :D

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:06 pm
by Okibi
Means 1 more car I have to be jealous of :(