Steel Braided Brake Lines

[tasroadster]

Are they DOT legal ?

ADR approved ?

Also I have a set without the metal hoke / tube which comes of the brake line fitting that attaches to the caliper.
Can these be fitted without this hook / tube ?

They also don't have the metal block which is in the Right Rear brake line.
Where can I get one of these from?

Thanks for your help.

[Okibi]

You can get some that are legal within Australia.

[green_comet]

Maltech are (i think) the only company in Australia that make ADR approved braided lines.. I rang them up to ask about them, and they said i have to bring my car in, so they can custom make them...

Ill probably ask if they can make them at a discount price if they use my car as a test mule for an Mx5 braided line kit..


http://www.maltech.com.au/

be looking at about $80-$100 per line..

[irwin83r]

so the ones at mania arnt road legal??

why/why not??

[Brad]

My understanding is that they can cause easy lockup's due to the almost zero presure loss they have. Never used any though so can't comment on if this is true.

[Okibi]

My understanding is that to pass the ADR tests, the brake line gets flicked back and forth thousands of times, which can make the braiding come loose and thus fail the test.

I think many manufacturers of braided lines just haven’t bothered to spend the time/money to get their product ADR compliant as people have been using their product anyway.

I’ve been considering some of the braided lines that are also covered in a plastic cover, it might get less attention from a police officer looking for an excuse to sticker my car.

[OMY005]

Some more info maybe.

STREET LEGAL STAINLESS STEEL BRAIDED HOSESL

[The Pupat]

If you ring around you can find mobile guys that will make ADR approved lines (you just have to make them using a certain method, trust me Speedflow will not hold the pressure.

[jolt]

I have stainless braided lines fitted to my car and to be honest I wouldn't bother spending the money on them again. Even for racecars their need is questionable and on a road-oriented car, they make zero difference. I replaced mine pretty early on, so maybe there'd be a huge difference if your car has heaps of km's/years under its belt. Are normal rubber hoses much cheaper?

If you're looking to tick another \"mod box\" then go ahead and buy the braided lines, otherwise spend your money more wisely in other areas ...

Rod

[mr_rotary]

My understanding is that to pass the ADR tests, the brake line gets flicked back and forth thousands of times, which can make the braiding come loose and thus fail the test.

I think many manufacturers of braided lines just haven’t bothered to spend the time/money to get their product ADR compliant as people have been using their product anyway.

I’ve been considering some of the braided lines that are also covered in a plastic cover, it might get less attention from a police officer looking for an excuse to sticker my car.

I had been told that they where illegal because you where not able to inspect the rubber component of the hose to see if it was cracked and/or leaking.

ADR approved hoses must be marked with an ADR marking on the hoses, this also includes standard brake lines. I beleive Perth Brake Parts will custom make the lines for approx. $100 ea. And yes, you do feel a big difference - a much firmer pedal

so the ones at mania arnt road legal??

why/why not??

They also sell open air filters and most other mods which are not road legal either.....but we fit them

[jolt]

And yes, you do feel a big difference - a much firmer pedal

Are you sure that wasn't just because your brake lines were bled when they fitted the new braided lines?

Rod

[mr_rotary]

And yes, you do feel a big difference - a much firmer pedal

Are you sure that wasn't just because your brake lines were bled when they fitted the new braided lines?

Rod

Yes, because that was what my vehicle (GT-R) was fitted with when it came from Japan and decided to change over to cheaper ADR approved rubber hoses to get it over the pits for registration.

That's part of the reason to fit braided brake lines - a much firmer pedal feel for track work.

[jolt]

I dare say it's just psychosomatic.

Rod

[mr_rotary]

I dare say it's just psychosomatic.

Rod

Here is a technical report from Goordrige about the benefits of braided brake lines:

http://www.goodridge.net/usa/pdf/all_markets/Goodridge_stainless_v_rubber.pdf

"If there is one item you can get that will make an instant, noticeable improvement to your brake feel and performance, switching to a stainless steel braided line is it! When you squeeze your brake lever and force fluid through the hydraulic line to the caliper, the line expands under pressure. This means that a good portion of the effort you put forth from your hand DOESN’T get to the caliper! It makes the line expand. By switching to a stainless steel braided brake line, you restrict the lines expansion characteristics. This means that your hand pressure goes directly to the caliper

[jolt]

There were plenty of \"technical reports\" from Peter Brock about the benefits of his Energy Polariser too but that doesn't mean that it isn't just marketing hype ...

Rod