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Re: ASI Radiator

Postby sailaholic » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:37 pm

ralt wrote:Hi.
The fellow who supplies us with alloy radiators mentioned in passing many years ago the problems are caused by electric leaks into the water from an external source and any radiator shop can test the water for this problem. He has never suggested to us to use earths, anodes or any such things. Just put it in admire and polish and watch your temp gauge needle in the same old spot.


Yes you can get stray current corrosion. This happens when the thing corroding is acting as a conductor because the return path for the current isn't appropriate. THe current jumps onto the radiator for say......a poorely wired fan?? uses the radiator as a conductor then jumps off somewhere else. The Jump on site is likely to become cathodic protected (sometimes excessively so) and the jump off site becomes the corroding site. This might be a poor explanation as I'm not sure that example would actually occur as again the fan is outside the electrolyte and an alloy radiator is electrically continuous with itself.

An example of where it DOES happen is where you have DC train lines (like Melbourne trams) running along side pipelines. If there is a problem or even partial problem with the earth return for the current the train it will seek the path of least resistance. This can mean is jumps (through soil - which is an electrolyte) from the DC train system onto the pipe at a coating defect (steel/ iron gas / water pipe). Runs down the pipeline (which are generally very well coated and such act like big cables) until it gets to the coating defect nearest the earth return for the train line (or similar) and then jumps off the pipe. Industrially a bond between the two systems would be used to allow the current a return path with out "jumping off" the pipe and causing corrosion at that place. Please remember in this example SOIL IS AN ELECTROLYTE which is true. Air in not an electrolyte/ conductive medium at the sort of voltages we are talking about.

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Re: ASI Radiator

Postby Zcootz » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:41 pm

sailaholic wrote:
Zcootz wrote:Not sure about that, I know we're getting a bit ot but if you've got a couple of electrodes (manifold and radiator ) connected electrically with the coolant as an electrolyte and grounded doesn't the potential for electrolysis occur ? I would have thought so because the electrical connections between the two isn't going to be perfect and there would be some difference? I think I'm overthinkjng this.... Lol......

Either way I don't think I would ground a radiator either.


Ok you are over thinking it, but only enough to miss the obvious not enough. The problem is here -"connected electrically". How is the manifold and rad electrically connected? They use a rubber or silicone insulator to connect them.

You DO however have a cast iron block electrically connected (bolts) to an aluminum cylinder head, with a common electrolyte. End of the day the corrosion inhibitor takes care of it.



That's what I'm getting at, they are only connected if you ground the radiator. No ground - no circuit - no electrolysis
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Re: ASI Radiator

Postby sailaholic » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:23 pm

That's what I'm getting at, they are only connected if you ground the radiator. No ground - no circuit - no electrolysis[/quote]

True, but in all likely hood the bolts the hold it in are likely to be grounding it. I haven't looked at a rad mounting lately but unless both the head the the thread are NOT touching the rad it will be connected.


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