Charcoal canister?

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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby bartmanftw » Wed May 28, 2014 12:12 am

NAs also get a "CEL" if you remove the solenoid. Only way to tell though is if you check the engine diagnostics. I assume if you leave the solenoid plugged in on the NB you won't get a check engine light.

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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby tescoking » Wed May 28, 2014 1:04 am

I have removed mine on my 2001 NB, but I didn't get CEL, maybe this only happen on newer NB.

Honetly I don't think that canister is doing anything after so many years, so. I just took it out and make the engine bay looks clear.
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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby emily_mx5 » Wed May 28, 2014 10:22 am

Bartman is correct, I removed on both of my NAs and had an error flash when you connect a light to the diagnostics box. Doesn't effect anything else, no "limp mode" or anything.
I assume NBs might be more advanced?


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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby meanmx » Wed May 28, 2014 3:01 pm

The newer OBD NB's might throw a warning light but my 01 has had no side effects. If you hook up a diagnostic light it might but no issue otherwise.
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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby bartmanftw » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:40 pm

Does anyone know if it is safe to just loop the two vapour lines from the fuel tank like this when removing the charcoal canister?

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Also anyone know when the purge valve is activated by the standard ecu? I'm running a megasquirt so I want to know under what conditions the valve should activated if I decide to use the charcoal canister.

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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby sailaholic » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:54 pm

Activates when engine is warm at low throttle loads.

The other line just vents into the chassis / cross member for memory. I've looped mine.


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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby bartmanftw » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:56 pm

Thanks for that. Should be easy to setup the valve to do that if I can be bothered.

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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby Aussie Stig » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:06 pm

Lokiel wrote:There's a post floating around somewhere I read a few years ago where someone cut their charcoal cannister in half and it was empty. The subsequent discussions went along the lines of "it's required in California but nowhere else so many are simply empty".

Anyone got an old one lying around to test this?

FYI: On NBs you'll get a CEL if you remove it.


So I guess you still have it, or superceded by adaptronic install.
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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby Damon Clubman » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:31 pm

I also junked mine about 18 months ago and haven't had a problem at pink slip.

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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby Lokiel » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:59 pm

Aussie Stig wrote:
Lokiel wrote:There's a post floating around somewhere I read a few years ago where someone cut their charcoal cannister in half and it was empty. The subsequent discussions went along the lines of "it's required in California but nowhere else so many are simply empty".

Anyone got an old one lying around to test this?

FYI: On NBs you'll get a CEL if you remove it.


So I guess you still have it, or superceded by adaptronic install.


Mine went LOOONG ago, even before the Adaptronic. Cleans up the engine bay nicely but generates a CEL error on rthe SE. No longer a problem with the standalone Adaptronic, it doesn't even know it exists.
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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby yem11n » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:08 pm

Ohh excellent .. Another item I can remove on my car..
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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby Gladiator » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:19 pm

Appart from appearances & possibly a small amount of weight, what advantages are there in removing it?
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Re: Charcoal canister?

Postby Lokiel » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:26 pm

Gladiator wrote:Appart from appearances & possibly a small amount of weight, what advantages are there in removing it?

- made room for my oil filter relocation kit's stainless steel hoses to run straight down to the engine block with no fear of touching/sawing-through anything:
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