Idle Dip

Engines, Transmissions & Final Drive questions and answers

Moderators: timk, Stu, -alex, miata, StanTheMan, greenMachine, ManiacLachy, Daffy, zombie, Andrew, The American, Lokiel

doctor_bob
Fast Driver
Posts: 105
Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:18 pm
Vehicle: NB8A
Location: Sydney

Re: Idle Dip

Postby doctor_bob » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:21 pm

Thanks again for your insight mate. It's probably worth adding that I didn't describe the issue very well in it's current incarnation in my last post... combination of late night & shot nerves from trying to keep up with Reggie on a national park road :mrgreen:

The issue currently only occurs right after coming off the throttle; as in when I'm coming to a stop it will drop down lower than usual, settle in for a few seconds, then hop back up to ~900rpm after a few seconds (the time taken to come back up seems to be getting longer). Once it goes back to the normal RPM it will remain nice and steady until I open the throttle again, then rinse repeat...

Anyway, on to the troubleshooting!

I see what you mean about those wires. Not the best design if I do say so myself...Gave them a good jiggle around while it was idling and it did nothing; idled nice and steady the whole time.

Back to the IACV though, something clicked in my head while I was under the hood a second ago; from my (limited) understanding, *I think* this part essentially opens up a bypass around the main air inlet (probably not the correct terminology... I mean main part of the throttle body that opens and closes from the throttle cable) and is automatically controlled by the ECU to open just enough to keep the revs steady at idle. Correct me if I'm wrong here, because I'm basing the next thing on that being how it works...

I disconnected the leads to the IACV and then turned on the car to see what happened... sure enough it idled exactly as it does when it droops after coming off throttle. Reconnecting it brought it back to normal. I'm thinking from this there's a good chance it might be sticking shut or the solenoid is no good, ie, the IACV is indeed the culprit

Please tell me this is a possibility and I'm not making pie in the sky assumptions here...

93_Clubman
Speed Racer
Posts: 12006
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:35 pm
Vehicle: Clubman
Location: Melbourne

Re: Idle Dip

Postby 93_Clubman » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:43 pm

doctor_bob wrote:Please tell me this is a possibility and I'm not making pie in the sky assumptions here...

Certainly sounds like it might be the culprit as a result of an intermittent failure. Depending on how well your cooling system has been maintained, i.e. coolant flushed & replaced regularly, corosion can be a factor if rusting of the two pipe ends on the base of the throttle body is anything to go by, i.e. have seen pipe ends that rust away & break.

doctor_bob
Fast Driver
Posts: 105
Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:18 pm
Vehicle: NB8A
Location: Sydney

Re: Idle Dip

Postby doctor_bob » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:07 pm

I have the full history of servicing from new, should be fairly easy to find out how regularly the coolant has been flushed. I had it serviced by my usual mechanic when I bought it, I *think* they did a flush then... again easy enough to find out.

If it wasn't done in that first service I'll add that to my list of things to do this weekend. My father has offered up some time & garage space to help out so I'm hoping we can get to the bottom of it. He's a lot more mechanically sympathetic than me ;)

doctor_bob
Fast Driver
Posts: 105
Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:18 pm
Vehicle: NB8A
Location: Sydney

Re: Idle Dip

Postby doctor_bob » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:29 pm

It's all good now, IACV was the culprit. Thanks for the help guys, especially mr "93_clubman"!

We gave it a clean out and it's working for now... I'll probably replace it if it gives me any more trouble. Coolant was almost brand new (mechanic did flush it when I bought it) and had been done at regular intervals since new according to the service history. No corrosion present & good flow through the throttle body.

Funny anecdote; after the work was done dad started googling things of this nature to validate the diagnosis and landed on this thread. He was saying how similar the experiences of this doctor_bob character's were to mine... I had a good laugh.

93_Clubman
Speed Racer
Posts: 12006
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:35 pm
Vehicle: Clubman
Location: Melbourne

Re: Idle Dip

Postby 93_Clubman » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:59 am

Great to hear - tks for letting us know.


Return to “MX5 Engines, Transmission & Final Drive”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 34 guests