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Postby turboalfa » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:49 am

I have a NB8a and looking to upgrade the full exhaust.

I know this has been covered in various ways before but what is the best way to go:

X Force headers (Around $480)
CES Headers (Around $800)

The rest of the exhaust will be a pretty basic 2 1/4" and the only other mod is a pod style filter.

Would ideally like to hear from somebody that has had or experienced both.

Or the other option is to leave the standard ones in place.

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Postby 93_Clubman » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:05 pm

got ces here & very happy with them, but given improvement is small & you're not doing the rest of the system, which i did, may be x-force is the wtg. i remember someone commenting on getting a good result with x-force headers:
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Postby pcmx5 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:09 pm

I had XForce 4;2;1and went to RB 4;1 and lost power.

From our dyno tests on an NB we know headers don't make a big difference (at least not as much as on an NA8)so i would always buy Xforce and save the money.

A good steel cat gave 4 RWKW on Chris h's NB8B so that is a cheaper and better option than headers if you don't want to spend the $$ for headers and cat.but you will need a free flow system to get the best out of either.

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Postby Regie » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:49 pm

pcmx5 wrote:I had XForce 4;2;1and went to RB 4;1 and lost power.

From our dyno tests on an NB we know headers don't make a big difference (at least not as much as on an NA8)so i would always buy Xforce and save the money.

A good steel cat gave 4 RWKW on Chris h's NB8B so that is a cheaper and better option than headers if you don't want to spend the $$ for headers and cat.but you will need a free flow system to get the best out of either.

Peter.


wow 4rwkw from a steel cat?? time to install the one i have sitting here...along with the xforce headers
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Postby sliq » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:14 pm

if you're looking for a cat, i'd go for http://www.metalcat.com.au/

not sure how much they cost. group buy?
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Postby Locutus » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:13 pm

this is the setup i have on my NA8:
xforce extractors > metalcat > single resonator > generic JDM (jasma approved) muffler

whole system is stainless 2 1/4", and is a bit noisy when fully warmed up. bought the whole kit for cheap expecting minimal gains, but gave an impressive improvement - it has considerably reduced the need to downshift when driving up hills. the car also has a loch stewart mk2 (mania style) cowl intake though.

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Postby Regie » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:47 pm

sliq wrote:if you're looking for a cat, i'd go for http://www.metalcat.com.au/

not sure how much they cost. group buy?


yep that's what I'm getting. Will go well with my 5zigen exhaust. Ahh money. I want more
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Postby sliq » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:33 pm

reggie let me know where you get it from & how much 8)
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Postby rxmx » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:56 pm

sliq wrote:if you're looking for a cat, i'd go for http://www.metalcat.com.au/

not sure how much they cost. group buy?


Id be interested depending on cost.
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Postby fat20v » Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:58 pm

im interested too for a group buy

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Postby RG.net » Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:10 pm

Ever thought about the Npower headers? I must say for the price the quality is pretty damn good.

Added a nice tone to the exhaust too.

Unsure of power increase, I changed slot of things around before I have dríven it with the headers.
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