Jap spec 1.6 litre engine swap

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Postby sabretooth » Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:54 am

Hi,

It wouldn't be a straight swap unfortunately. The 1.6L uses a different wiring loom (coils and ignitor plug to start with are different). The throttle cable is also different, as is the exhaust and a few other things. The other thing is that seeing as you have a 94, you have a 1.8L engine. So you'd be decreasing power and torque.

Unless there's something wrong with your current engine I wouldn't bother with a swap. 150,000KM is still young for a BP engine - you'll see it past 230,000 if it's looked after.

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Re: Jap spec 1.6 litre engine swap

Postby JBT » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:30 am

JET01 wrote:Was just wondering would this be a straight swap into my car?
Can I use my current loom and ecu?
And also will I gain any more horsepower from this engine?

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No
No
No

IMHO, don't even think about it :|

edit/ As the question has changed completely, disregard this post entirely :roll:
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Postby Boyracer » Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:38 am

Really bad idea...at 150000 the 1.8 engine is just run in...
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Postby Astroboysoup » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:46 pm

takes 150000km to run in an engine? didn't know that?

so an engine's peak performance in its life is around that point?
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Re: Jap spec 1.6 litre engine swap

Postby Matty » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:27 pm

JET01 wrote:Was just wondering would this be a straight swap into my car?
Can I use my current loom and ecu?
And also will I gain any more horsepower from this engine?

yes
yes
no

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Postby mio » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:55 pm

wouldn't a 1997 Japanese mx5 have a 1.8?
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Postby kula » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:29 pm

not necesarily..
in Japan, NA and NBs can be ordered with 1.6s


the NB6A is actually a cool engine, about 5ps more than an NA6

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Postby kitkat » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:27 pm

if i was in your position ide save the engine for a later date.
If by some chance your current engine shyts itselt it will be good to have that second engine on hand.

But in the mean time you can always mod it while it sits in your garage... headwork, pistons and all other fun bits for when it does come time to put it into the car.

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Postby PASHN8 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:10 am

How can you know for sure the engine has done 6,000km's?
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Postby spikey » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:43 pm

The main differnce would be the JDM ecu which put out 97kw instead of the AUS model 85Kw.

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Postby kula » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:05 am

87kw you mean?

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Re: engine

Postby StanTheMan » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:07 am

spikey wrote:The main differnce would be the JDM ecu which put out 97kw instead of the AUS model 85Kw.



mmmm i think that is a myth
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Postby spikey » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:22 am

There is a dyno day this Saturday,maybe I can try it on a Aust apec car and see if there is any difference.

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Re: engine

Postby mr_rotary » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:08 pm

StanTheMan wrote:
spikey wrote:The main differnce would be the JDM ecu which put out 97kw instead of the AUS model 85Kw.



mmmm i think that is a myth


Jap spec vehicles always put out more HP. Better fuel one reason.

Only way to prove this though is if anyone can get hold of a JDM brochure? I may be able to get a hold of one?


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