Torsen or Suspension?

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Postby Curly » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:13 pm

After experiencing how well a fwd corolla on shitty tyres (RE88s) pulls out of corners with an LSD, I'm sold. Fair bit of torque steer on tarmac, but it just puts the power down so well...

And remember - 12 yr old suspension is still mx5 suspension, so it's pretty damn good to start with.

I'm still voting LSD.

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Postby Okibi » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:45 pm

Curly wrote:...a fwd corolla ...
enough said
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

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Postby Curly » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:51 pm

Heh, fair point. :)

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Postby sabretooth » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:10 pm

Twelve year old suspension is twelve year old suspension. You get exccessive body roll, reduced grip, a harsher ride and doesn't quite deal with bumps as nicely as new suspension. I've moved from near-dead suspension to new suspension and it totally transformed the car's grip and ride.

You can't compare LSD applications between a torque steering FWD car and a RWD car. The LSD is better for putting the power down but I'd wager you that you'll reap the benefits of suspension far more frequently than you will an LSD - you don't have to have the pedal to the metal to get them.

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Postby Brad » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:29 pm

But I'll argue that the graduation to the benefit of the LSD will be FAR more instantaneous than would suspension changes, therefore more noticable and 'worthy' on the road. Just my opinion though, and I've always had the LSD and only just gone to Tein's.
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Postby tinsfci » Mon Apr 17, 2006 12:12 am

This is starting to get interesting! I am leaning towards getting a torsen first just because a s/h diff at a good price is harder to come by than new shocks, but I haven't made my mind up yet. Let the discussion continue........

Given than my current motorkhana rig is a '63 Taipan beach buggy with a totally flogged king and link pin front end and a stock air cooled 1600 cc engine, the MX5 will be a quantum leap in handling and power, even if it is 350 kg heavier than the buggy.

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Postby Inf3ct0R » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:01 am

Brad wrote:But I'll argue that the graduation to the benefit of the LSD will be FAR more instantaneous than would suspension changes, therefore more noticable and 'worthy' on the road. Just my opinion though, and I've always had the LSD and only just gone to Tein's.


I second that, after I got my clutch based LSD installed, and drove home from the diff man, it was wet, and my god what a difference, traction was a dream come true, the rear wheels would just lock and away we go. powering out of a corner? same thing, lock and go. however it will make your front right corner lift up WOT'in around a roundabout if you have old stockie sussy :)

having said that, my motorkhana times seems to have gotten worst since i can hold the slides longer! :roll: :roll: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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