I want to clean my 2nd hand header before installation.
Have tried CLR 50:50 with water but was not that successful.
There's a product called Stain-Magic by Yoshimura but need to buy it online.
The youtube below shows by applying the cream to the header the discolouration/rust comes off easily (don't want to spend hours with wet sand paper etc).
I want to work on the headers this weekend.
What similar effective products to Stain-Magic would do the job that I can purchase at Bunnings?
Thanks
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:50 am
by green_comet
I'd give oxalic acid a try. Go to Bunnings and get yourself a 2kg bottle of Digger Rust & Stain Cleaner and a big tub. Mix up a fairly strong mix of oxalic acid and warm water in the tub outside and submerge your headers in it. Leave the headers in the mix for a couple days, giving them a scrub every now and then with a non-scratch pad (make sure you wear globes). This should remove 95% of that staining. Once they're looking good give em a rinse with clean water and you're good to go.
I've used this stuff on several bike frames and other metal parts and it has always worked great. It's very gentle so you don't have to worry about it ruining your parts. Google search bmx and oxalic acid, the bike guys love it.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:28 am
by green_comet
Have a look if there's much info on its use with stainless, I didn't have a problem using it with my stainless bike parts, but just make sure before you give it a go, as it might remove that polished surface and make it look more like brushed stainless.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:16 am
by Dupain
Thanks gc.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 12:34 pm
by taminga16
Purchase a spray can of "Bug and Tar" remover. Greg.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:49 am
by Dupain
green_comet wrote:I'd give oxalic acid a try. Go to Bunnings and get yourself a 2kg bottle of Digger Rust & Stain Cleaner and a big tub. Mix up a fairly strong mix of oxalic acid and warm water in the tub outside and submerge your headers in it. Leave the headers in the mix for a couple days, giving them a scrub every now and then with a non-scratch pad (make sure you wear globes). This should remove 95% of that staining. Once they're looking good give em a rinse with clean water and you're good to go.
I've used this stuff on several bike frames and other metal parts and it has always worked great. It's very gentle so you don't have to worry about it ruining your parts. Google search bmx and oxalic acid, the bike guys love it.
Someone is not happy with me doing this in the kitchen.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:04 pm
by Mr Morlock
and oxalic acid comes with safety warning as well- the kitchen is not the right place.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:28 pm
by Dupain
Mr Morlock wrote:and oxalic acid comes with safety warning as well- the kitchen is not the right place.
Why? I like to eat burgers when I work on the car. By the way I'm a Chemical Engineer.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:05 pm
by Dupain
After 12 hrs.
The flange which does not get as hot as the pipe is well cleaned. The pipes are clean but some may need more time and a more concentrated formula.
Will dry it off and do a light polish with the Dremel.
Taking the to the mechanic tomorrow, I did not know MX5 mania was located in country NSW, Dural. So I might ask them to put it on also to make the trip worthwhile.
Otherwise it would be good to put it in the bath for a few days when my wife is away next week.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:42 pm
by green_comet
Good to see it's working for you.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:51 pm
by fastfreddygassit
Dupain wrote:
Mr Morlock wrote:and oxalic acid comes with safety warning as well- the kitchen is not the right place.
Why? I like to eat burgers when I work on the car. By the way I'm a Chemical Engineer.
Oops, Morlock got PWNED!
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:17 pm
by Dupain
green_comet wrote:Good to see it's working for you.
As you can see from the pics some parts came out looking brand new and bright as and others still have some sort of very thin non rust residue/film. Thinking that these headers were wrapped and those stains were from the wrapping over time.
I not saying the header has beaten me but I'm going to leave it as is, can't afford more time on it to get it 100%. Thanks for your help gc.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:10 am
by greenltd
Is the residual discolouration not just the effects of the exhaust heat?
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:46 pm
by Dupain
Did not get out to the mechanic today. Will give it another pickle and with a more concentrated solution.
Re: Stainless Steel Cleaner For Headers
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:48 pm
by Dupain
greenltd wrote:Is the residual discolouration not just the effects of the exhaust heat?
Yes. Might use phosphoric acid if the latest OA pickle is not any better.