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why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:42 am
by Mr nanotech
I see so many forum posters freak out about the notion of rolling their fenders. It is such a simple job and once done, you really cannot spot the difference from the outside. Maybe I could understand if these cars were rare and valuable but they are cheap mass produces cars. Very easy to attain and possibly the most produced car in recent history.
Can anyone give me a solid reason as to why it is such a big deal? Its reversible too. A mate of mine just unrolled his aw11 fenders as part of his oem resto. So it isnt exactly permanent.
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:00 am
by ausbuoy
For some of us who have come back from car makes where it was just not necessary,(Porschex3) there is uncertainty, but NOT fear.
I believe I will need this done to the mx5 NA that I picked up last year in order to fit new wheel/tyres and vigorously drive as fast as I can for as long as I can. Any assistance here in Brisbane to have this efficiently accomplished in the near future would be appreciated.
[color=#BF0000][b][size=150]"WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE WERE
NOT AFRAID"
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:10 am
by Mr Morlock
nano remarked "Very easy to attain and possibly the most produced car in recent history." What car is that? People can mod their cars but some buyers will avoid modded cars partly because the taste or lack of it is not theirs and there is a suspicion that as ausbuoy said it is "drive as fast as I can for as long as I can". There are no fenders on my car.
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:59 pm
by Jeo
I wish my Miata had rolled fenders.
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:24 pm
by narita
I think alot of people are a bit hesitant to roll their fenders for two reasons:
1. If you dont not apply enough physical heat into the panel their is a great chance of cracking the paint therefore requiring new paint which can range from a fender panel only respray to a more serious complete body respray, the latter can easily cause bill ehock with shops charging anywhere from $1000 to $20000 obviously depending on pearl or candy & bodykits or lips.
2. What many people seem to forget is although the front fender is removable, the rear fender is in fact NOT removeable and almost always requires new sheet metal to be custom made and welded to the body. This will draw similar costs to the first point I made (see Paint Cracking above).
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:21 pm
by KevGoat
Mr nanotech wrote: ... It is such a simple job and once done, you really cannot spot the difference from the outside...
I had no idea that the guards on my NB had been done until I was told. The previous owner had black XXR's 16x8 0 offset fitted with much lowered BC's ... The tyres on the XXR's still showed signs of rubbing
Can't imagine why he got defected
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:57 pm
by Mr Morlock
Kevgoat - A man after my own heart- "guards" it makes me sentimental about being an old Aussie - but hell I have advanced I dropped the "mud".
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 7:19 pm
by KevGoat
Mr Morlock wrote:Kevgoat - A man after my own heart- "guards" it makes me sentimental about being an old Aussie - but hell I have advanced I dropped the "mud".
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 9:53 pm
by hks_kansei
for me it's about the possibility of paint cracking.
If I had rubbish paint I'd have no qualms rolling them, but since my paint is relatively good I don't want to risk the $0 guard roll for needing a few hundred dollars of respraying.
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:31 am
by Mr nanotech
hks_kansei wrote:for me it's about the possibility of paint cracking.
If I had rubbish paint I'd have no qualms rolling them, but since my paint is relatively good I don't want to risk the $0 guard roll for needing a few hundred dollars of respraying.
I think you have bigger problems than your paint cracking, you might want to check your rear quarter out
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:42 am
by MadMikey
For me it's the horror stories you hear about paint cracking, there's very little finesse in the way I do things so I don't really trust myself.
I'll probably get the courage to do it eventually but it's not on top of the list at the moment.
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 10:13 am
by emily_mx5
urgh this is painful to read.
Dont do it yourself, pay a professional.
I dont often say that, and try to give everything a go myself, but when it comes to body work, experience and skill is required.
In sydney there are people that come to you, use all the heat necessary, and there is no chance of paint cracking off.
narita wrote:2. What many people seem to forget is although the front fender is removable, the rear fender is in fact NOT removeable and almost always requires new sheet metal to be custom made and welded to the body. This will draw similar costs to the first point I made (see Paint Cracking above).
What on earth are you talking about. You do know what guard rolling is right? we are not talking about bolt on flares.
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:52 pm
by JRBasia
I rolled my guards because it was necessary in order to stop the rubbing I had with my new wheels and tyres. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered, of course.
I suppose certain people will do what it takes to achieve what they want. Personally I hired the correct tools and did it myself. Partly because I don't trust many people with my car and because I wanted to learn.
I don't think there's fear, just the risk that there 'may' be the potential for a costly fix for a stupid mistake.
JB
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:11 am
by taminga16
Mr Morlock wrote:Kevgoat - A man after my own heart- "guards" it makes me sentimental about being an old Aussie - but hell I have advanced I dropped the "mud".
PLUS 1, A FENDER is someting that one places between a boat and another or between a boat and a wharf, pier or jetty.
Damn the Americanisims.
'America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between'.
Oscar Wilde.
Re: why are people afraid of guard rolling?
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 11:07 pm
by Timmeh
On topic.
guard rolling is easy,
like with almost everything automotive, take your time.
I did my guards and my mates mx5.