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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby slug_dub » Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:23 am

You can give the lights a sanding all the way up to 2000 grit, removing all the raised moulded text and then polish to make them super smooth and shiny :)

Seeing the excellent result with acrylics here GP, is making me consider painting my car myself!
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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby ralt » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:33 pm

Hi.
No need to use cutters on lenses. Use brasso- cheap and very effective.

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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby Mr Morlock » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:41 pm

I have heard the Brasso thing before and it is not a good idea. That product is essentially for polishing brass not plastic or a painted surface. A light automotive polish will have no deleterious effects.

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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby NitroDann » Sat Sep 24, 2011 5:51 pm

If it works whats the issue?

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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby Mr Morlock » Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:09 pm

the issue is that using a wrong product can have unsought consequences. Brasso, Silvo or any specific cleaner have ingredients that can react with a substrate not necessarily immediately. I well recall a problem with stress cracking raised by a car company of PC which after some analysis ( well beyond the home handyman) which demonstrated not a fault with the moulding material or moulding process but with a cleaning agent used for prepping cars before delivery to customers.Subsequently an alert went out not to use that product.

I am one of those people that actually read labels and see what are the recommendations for use. I have also been caught out using the wrong approach to cleaning by using the wrong product. The right polish is easy to buy and not expensive.

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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby ralt » Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:54 pm

Hi.
Oh dear dont want to start a tizzie I was advising on a product i have used for 40 odd years and have never had acrylic or perspex deteriorate . Use brasso for cleaning/ polishing acrylic/perspex/alloy-great when used with wet and dry paper only on actual bare alloy /hard water stains on glass-its one of those products which is suitable for a multitude of uses and has been around for a very long time and i guess its a turn off to some because it is cheap and not sold as an automotive product.

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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby Mr Morlock » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:55 am

ralt is probably right based on his experience. In the old days there was not a lot of specialist products eg using boot polish for vinyl tops and tooth paste for perspex but there are better solutions. Brasso is a metal polish for brass, copper, pewter, chrome ,stainless steel steel and zinc- and it is very useful- there is no mention of plastics.

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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby Steampunk » Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:09 pm

Hang on guys, you missed the reason why slug suggested sanding.

slug_dub wrote:You can give the lights a sanding all the way up to 2000 grit, removing all the raised moulded text and then polish... !
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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby GP » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:35 pm

Did you do it like Billbunter, in a home made spray booth after lots of detailed preparation?

No, Just did it out in the weather which added a couple of weeks because of rain wind etc.
How many colour red's did it have on it? :lol: Mine has 3.

Front left guard had 5 different colours :shock: The rest of it only had a whisker of paint left, Didn't take much rubbing down.
How did you get those taillights so glossy?

Filed the raised writing off, Then polished with brasso as I always have on plastic. Did buy some plastic polish and redid them, They maybe marginally shinier.
Thank for the positive remarks, I was expecting someone to mention that it needs lowering now but this will have to wait :D
I have painted several motorbikes and one car before. This is the first time i've used clear over the colour and the difficulty was increased twofold as well as the time it takes. I suggest to those people who want to do this themselves that unless you have some experience I would not try it on your pride and joy. Practice on something else first
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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby GP » Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:29 pm

Here's a rundown on the materials bought, Of course some of the polishes etc. were only partly used but it all adds up.
Sanding Blocks---------6.89
Sandpaper-------------25.17
Masking Products------68.86
Body Filler-------------12.99
Blade putty------------17.99
5L Primer Filler----------85.98
2L Prepwash------------24.78
24L Thinners-----------159.96
2 Pouring Lids----------6.00
Paint Strainers---------2.00
3L Acrylic Red---------150.00
6L Acrylic Clear--------114.00
Cutting Compound-----20.00
Plastic Polish----------21.99
Vinyl Cleaner VLR------25.99
Swirl Remover---------25.99
Total---------------$768.59
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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby Mr Morlock » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:08 pm

Certainly doing the job yourself is something that few of us undertake and painting and preparation can be very time consuming. I was really surprised at the cost of raw materials and would never have guessed that amount. How much product remains unused- presumably a professional has little waste as a thinners etc is used on other products. In the old days everyone used acrylic and it looks good but no where near as durable as later generations. It makes 100% sense to select acrylic for a home job. Well done.

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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby JBT » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:54 pm

Looks like an excellent job GP. I envy your skills. :beer: :beer:
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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby GP » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:16 pm

How much product remains unused-

I couldn't do all the painting in 1 day and you use quite a bit of thinners to clean the gun out after each use which explains the 24 litres. The amount of colour and clear is about right though, I put heaps on :D
No comments on the fact that I removed all that ugly textured paint on the bottom half. I also decided not to paint the black along the bottom. I know I'm going to get stone chips but I prefer the look of it being all red
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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby JBT » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:42 pm

I know I'm going to get stone chips but I prefer the look of it being all red

It looks much better that way than the original black band on the sill. Gives the car a bit of a lowered look. I never really notice the original "bubble wrap" paint on the lower door areas though.
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Re: My Backyard Paintjob

Postby slug_dub » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:47 pm

If you sand off the stone chip stuff along the botton half in prep, is there something you could use before paint to put it on anew?
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