Black on Blue - Vote Now !!!!

Woo · Postby **Woo** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:33 pm

In a previous life I was a production line welder for ARB (the parent company of BD) and parted on less than amicable terms. Now thats not to say that I couldn't ask them :oops:

but.....

Actually I think the \"problem\" with the clearance is not a manufacturing issue CT. I'd be interested to know how many spacers BD leave on the seatbelt towers when they do the install. There are 4 or 5 that support the retention bolt.
Although I left a slight gap of ~2 mm between the plastic shroud and the bar mount I believe that if this was reduced to say 0.25 mm then the top of the bar might just move forward enough to clear the window surround where the bar hits.

I was only joking about the oxy. I'm 6' and need all the height in the bar possible.

Although I love the bar (thanks Jeff) I think the hardtop imparts about the same degree of rigidity. Having said that I'm sure the BD would be better/stronger if the car was ever inverted.

Cheers
WÃ²Ã³

Woo · Postby **Woo** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:35 pm

Ted wrote:Have a look at Ian Morris' 10AE with the silver hardtop down your way, that looks really good!

Does anyone have any pictures?

Bevan · Postby **Bevan** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:47 pm

Woo wrote:Although I love the bar (thanks Jeff) I think the hardtop imparts about the same degree of rigidity. Having said that I'm sure the BD would be better/stronger if the car was ever inverted.

Not too sure about that. I thought the hardtop provided no rigity what-so-ever. Couldn't imagine it doing anything apart from crumpling in a roll over either.

Woo · Postby **Woo** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:35 pm

Heres my take on it Bevan. I can only go by the physics I know and how it feels (having tried both).

A sphere is the strongest geometry we have. So a hemisphere is slightly less strong. Having said that, as the hardtop is clamped on in 6 places and genuinely doesn't move, even when really fanging it around :mrgreen:

, it forms a hemisphere where before there was nothing.

Thats the logic I attribute to the observed phenomena.

As for the hardtop crumpling, I'm sure it would be no better than the soft top. The BD would be much better protection imho.

WÃ²Ã³

Red Baron · Postby **Red Baron** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:00 pm

If you plan to put it on it's roof, then either way a BD bar would be a very good idea. Then again even if you don't plan to and drive in a way that could see it happen, refer to point one.

As for the Black on Blue, would only look good if you painted the screen surround black, then it would look like it was meant to be.

To do that to a 10AE :shock:

Time for a spray job.

baron

Ted · Postby **Ted** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:18 am

Woo, email me. I have a pretty ordinary picture of it.

Woo · Postby **Woo** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:34 pm

Cheers Ted, email sent

I've decided it is going to have a color change, thanks for the feedback everyone.

So far the lowest quote for painting is just under $900 :shock:

I'm sure it will be a perfect match and the highest quality, however 900 is 900 and if I can get as good a job done for less I will.

And Col, the same place quoted me $50 for painting each of the flaps as they are already painted. He suggested ~$10 each less for unpainted. Once again a bit exxy but will be a top quality job. I'll keep you posted of any better prices.

So my question is does anyone know any good painters (preferably in the eastern/northern suburbs)?

Thanks
WÃ²Ã³

Bevan · Postby **Bevan** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:36 pm

$900

Hell, for less than half that you could buy some paint and drive across to Adelaide and get Astroboy to paint it!

Craig · Postby **Craig** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:39 pm

Mine old one was $700 to respray and that included a new rear window rubber/seal as a reference. Makes me very glad I found a Titanium coloured one for $1250!

Woo · Postby **Woo** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:16 pm

Bevan wrote:$900
Hell, for less than half that you could buy some paint and drive across to Adelaide and get Astroboy to paint it!

Not doubting Astro's ability, but it is a long way to go for warranty. Thanks anyway

How long ago did you get your old one painted Craig? Was it pre GST?
The GST slugs $80 on top of the actual cost of spraying which is $800 (hence saying nearly $900) and thankfully that includes a new seal for the rear window.

Here is the pic from Tim, I kind of like the silver look. But as Tim pointed out, if you sprayed the windscreen surround silver it would look dorky without the lid on.

Also looks like someone hit Targa that year :wink:

Thanks Tim.

Cheers
WÃ²Ã³

Craig · Postby **Craig** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:10 pm

Woo wrote:How long ago did you get your old one painted Craig? Was it pre GST? The GST slugs $80 on top of the actual cost of spraying which is $800 (hence saying nearly $900) and thankfully that includes a new seal for the rear window

Few years back now but it's not like it's a super hard job to do, others have had theirs done cheaper and been happy. Cash is your friend here to being a tradies job! :wink:

Insurgence · Postby **Insurgence** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:19 pm

I've got black on blue and I think it looks good.

but i've got twilightblue which is considerably darker :mrgreen:

pcmx5 · Postby **pcmx5** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:32 pm

I got one repainted,including removing the rear window and new seal for $450 about 2 years ago.

$900 seems a lot!

Peter

Woo · Postby **Woo** » Sat May 20, 2006 1:16 pm

Thought you might like to see the finished product :mrgreen:

Only set me back $660 (with a new window seal), took awhile but it looks fantastic ..... the photo doesn't do it justice, much better in the flesh

Thanks for the feedback on the poll everyone as it convinced me it would be worthwhile, cheers

WÃ²Ã³

StanTheMan · Postby **StanTheMan** » Sat May 20, 2006 1:25 pm

Woo wrote:Heres my take on it Bevan. I can only go by the physics I know and how it feels (having tried both).

A sphere is the strongest geometry we have. So a hemisphere is slightly less strong. Having said that, as the hardtop is clamped on in 6 places and genuinely doesn't move, even when really fanging it around , it forms a hemisphere where before there was nothing.

Thats the logic I attribute to the observed phenomena.

As for the hardtop crumpling, I'm sure it would be no better than the soft top. The BD would be much better protection imho.

WÃ²Ã³

well, the Mazda engineers have stated that the hard top has no part in making the car any more solid than it already is. Bwob....God's sidekick , has said the same. However King Matty is ( or was)of the opinion that on an old NA where everything is loose, has a littelbenifit . There has been great may discussions about this . Personally I don't have a clue. But my old rattled out hard top, Cretainly did not contribute any rigitety.

This could be another COW :mrgreen:

By the way Love the hard top.....Its gotta be colour matched on a 10AE