What are the class regulations for sprints

[emexv]

Well my membership to the MX5 club of Vic has arrived and my CAMS application went in the post today.

I don't want to go mad with the car but the suspension is 180K's old and needs replacing. My concern is I don't want to do anything that will push me up into classes beyond the car (and more importantly driver) by modifying the car with the wrong components. I have a mate in the WRX club and he showed me their regs which surprised me a bit.

I have searched this site and the Vic club site and can't find a list of classes and what modifications are allowed for each. I am sure there must be some guidelines somewhere.

If someone could point me in the right direction I would appreciciate it.

Thanks

[Damo]

Hey mate, I've only done a couple of events so far and it's been great fun. The regs you'll want for next season are here: http://www.mx5vic.org.au/motorsport/motorsport_rules_2008-2009.pdf

I see from other posts you have an NA6? If it's standard there are several drivers in the standard NA class. I think with an NA6 you can change the exhaust or something like that and remain in STD, but don't quote me on that as I'm not in std NA.

Otherwise you can move to clubman with out any major outlay. That's what I'm in and all I've done to my NB8A is good street tyres, a good allignment, front brake pads and good fluid (all things you can do in std anyway) and a cat-back exhaust (just because the original was cracked). With an NA6 you will need a bit more but you get more freedom with regards to mods.

I'd say start by just getting some fresh brake fluid, and then perhaps good tyres and front pads. That way you keep your options open to both classes. Take it from there after that.

[Matty]

As the guy who wrote most of the current rule structure, I'll say: \"What he said ^\"

Start with a standard car. Learn to drive it first (Look at the class lap records for incentive).
If you decide to move up a class or two, talk to the regulars about what you should do first.

[emexv]

Thanks for the reply guys.

The rules are exactly what I was after. I checked the site again and can't believe I missed them. My car has 16's , extractors and am told a cat back and high flow cat so it looks like I will fit into Clubman.

I need shocks and springs and was going to get sway bars at the same time. After reading the regs it looks like I will be holding off on the sway bars for a while.

[Damo]

Start with a standard car. Learn to drive it first (Look at the class lap records for incentive).

That's a very good point about looking at the class records when you have a relatively standard car. If it's modified much you won't really know where you r times stand in terms of your driving since everyone's car is different. While it's close to standard, provided you have good tyres, you'll know you can realistically chase the quick standard times.

Since it's club racing, not F1, you don't really need to chase every last 1/100th of a second with your modifications. I figure I'll just upgrade stuff as the standard parts wear out/brake. It's cheaper that way and eventually I'll hopefully have a pretty quick car.

[emexv]

Start with a standard car. Learn to drive it first (Look at the class lap records for incentive).

That's a very good point about looking at the class records when you have a relatively standard car. If it's modified much you won't really know where you r times stand in terms of your driving since everyone's car is different. While it's close to standard, provided you have good tyres, you'll know you can realistically chase the quick standard times.

Since it's club racing, not F1, you don't really need to chase every last 1/100th of a second with your modifications. I figure I'll just upgrade stuff as the standard parts wear out/brake. It's cheaper that way and eventually I'll hopefully have a pretty quick car.

That's exactly my point. I need to upgrade the suspension because it's 180k old. Just wanted to make sure I didn't put something on that would push me up into an advanced class.

For example in the WRX club if you put Coilovers on it puts you into Open Class. That would be pretty stupid in a standard NA with a novice driver.
In this example it would mean removing them again and replacing them with a standard setup which would be wasting money that I don't have (or my daughter would just have to go without her braces ).

[Matty]

Standard type shocks should be OK as OEM equivalent without being counted as a mod. Pedders, Monroe, KYB GR-2, Tokico HP, etc. Some can be had cheaply off ebay.

Otherwise, for an upgraded part, get some Konis, set them on low, wind up the stiffness, and it'll be very handy.

Springs don't wear out, so unless you have a great desire to be lower or stiffer, keep the standard ones. I competed for several seasons on stock springs quite competitively. (But if you can do them and still be in Clubman, go ahead!)

[fattima]

I'm running in standard class with suspension that is 190K old, I would not stress that it has to be replaced unless there is an obvious/dangerous fault. Get out there, see how it goes and enjoy!

[Damo]

Yeah, 175K on mine. If they're bad I'd like to know what good feels like.

[emexv]

Excellent stuff. I'll be up for a look on Sunday to see how the day is run etc. so hope to see you guys there...............should have some more silly questions by then

[fattima]

Be good to see you come say hello I've got a red NA with a hardtop. Before I had my first event I went to a couple of days to get an idea of how the club ran things and to introduce myself. It is a good thing to do so on your first day everyone has an idea of who you are, you know what cars you will be running with and how it is all done.

[Matty]

If I make it there, I'll be the guy in the black NB with the big hole in the side, and a look of envy on my face.

[bensale]

Thanks for this thread, i'll be looking a running my NA6 in the standard class in the future. Thanks for the link d.ethakada. I'll hopefully be able to make it on Sunday, also asking silly questions (and trying to find someone who'll give me a ride around the track) If I come I'll bring a video camera to film some of the happenings.

[Samselectrics]

Thanks for the reply guys.

The rules are exactly what I was after. I checked the site again and can't believe I missed them. My car has 16's , extractors and am told a cat back and high flow cat so it looks like I will fit into Clubman.

I need shocks and springs and was going to get sway bars at the same time. After reading the regs it looks like I will be holding off on the sway bars for a while.

Just be aware that 16s on an NA will be considered 1 mod. I was discussing this with someone last week. 15's on the NA's and 16's on the NB's is considered standard. I would suggest that anything bigger will be a disadvantage if anything but none the less, thats the rules. There is a limit of 4 mods for an NA6 in clubman class. Wheels, catback and extractors will be 3 mods. Shocks will keep you under the limit but the springs will bump you over into modified.

Sam

[Matty]

Just be aware that 16s on an NA will be considered 1 mod. I was discussing this with someone last week. 15's on the NA's and 16's on the NB's is considered standard. I would suggest that anything bigger will be a disadvantage if anything but none the less, thats the rules. There is a limit of 4 mods for an NA6 in clubman class. Wheels, catback and extractors will be 3 mods. Shocks will keep you under the limit but the springs will bump you over into modified.

Sam

He's always able to apply for an exception on the argument that 16s don't constitute an advantage.

(Where the real advantage lies is in the tyre models that are available in larger sizes, but not in 14 or 15" versions in Australia. So unless you have top notch tyres, I see no reason why an exception shouldn't be approved, particularly as a beginner driver. But then, I'm not the one enforcing the rules.)