Whats happening to the MX5 racing??

[NitroDann]

its actually people like you Dann who think and claim they can build a lightning quick car to win everything

Dude !

Read !

I never said anything like this i said that a 200whp atmo motor is god awful expensive compared to a turbo engine at 200whp and allowing only very rare and henceforth expensive turbo models in only further drives up the price to get your foot in the door.

how is this so hard to understand.

Dann

[little decks]

Thats just wrong Dann, did you see what CT sold his SP race car for? try and find anything else in a production sports car that could do 1:03 at wakefield for that price... you are delusional if you think that is dear.

[toppertee]

How's this for a simple everyman race category?

Set a maximum cost for a car.
Do whatever you like within that budget. Only mandatory items are safety related.
Race!
If any car is deemed to be "too fast", any driver can buy it for the established maximum cost.

Not new idea - Swedish rally drivers were doing it on an episode of Top Gear. Has it been done here before?

It's a great idea, the only problem with it is people who are handy on the spaners end up the best car. Second though brilliant idea

[toppertee]

Dude !

Who the ƒü¢k says dude any more? BTW you white fullas that use the word bro, don't!

For what its worth sounds like little decks been around Motorsport for a while. It sounds like he knows what's he's talking about.

[NitroDann]

For the record, the word dude used as a whole sentence is a figure of speech

Dann

[little decks]

For what its worth sounds like little decks been around Motorsport for a while. It sounds like he knows what's he's talking about.

Thanks, I've been around it and participated in it all my life and these are the same old arguements haha... its not going to change and if you love it like i do you'll keep coming back anyway.

[NitroDann]

No arguments there.

So tell me, whats the current go with non eligible cars just being allowed in or something?

Also thankyou for finally posting a bit young decks.

Dann

[gslender]

How's this for a simple everyman race category?

Set a maximum cost for a car.
Do whatever you like within that budget. Only mandatory items are safety related.
Race!
If any car is deemed to be "too fast", any driver can buy it for the established maximum cost.

Not new idea - Swedish rally drivers were doing it on an episode of Top Gear. Has it been done here before?

What a great idea for a national challenge! Make the value $10k and I'd be there with a car and happy to race! I'm sure a few other would be too!

Dann, bring ya $200 turbo and show us all.

G

[NitroDann]

Tomorrow mate, if it were i promise it, tomorrow

i dont need no 10k, why dont we start lemons here in oz?

Dann

[little decks]

No arguments there.

So tell me, whats the current go with non eligible cars just being allowed in or something?

Also thankyou for finally posting a bit young decks.

Dann

is this for MX5 Challenge or Prod Sports... for both of them its basically a case of not wanting to chase people off... It is in this case hard to tell people they cant race, particularly some of the guys in prod sports like the Mackies who have always supported the series, they might have some legality issues with their cars but you dont want to tick them off in favour of blokes who come once or twice a year and just do the 1 hours.

The same goes for the Challenge in that its not supposed to be overly serious and everyone wants as many people at the meetings to race as possible but the problem is the guys who want a level playing field get pissed off and don't come back if you let anything come along... but if you exclude the other MX5s they wont come back either...

The real problem I have with some of the other guys is how they acted with guys like Steve and Jake Shelley, when they came along there were some really good numbers turning up to MX5 challenge meetings but they were there for 1 meeting and were fairly inexperienced and its fair to say a bit over exuberant and they understood that and made the right apologies to the guys that they really punted and it obviously wasn't intended.... but after the meeting some of the other guys started to basically abuse them on their youtube videos and the like and they haven't been back since and instead bought an EVO and a Radical and do their racing elsewhere and have shown that with a bit of experience they aren't out of control... and thats 2 perfectly good 2F cars we will never see at another meeting & thats something I have real problem with.

[NitroDann]

I havnt read the 2b and 2f rules for a while so Im reading through them.

In 2b, it seems you can build custom subframes and suspension arms (including increasing the width of the car by 200mm) and fit any hubs you want to them. is this true?

As for gearbox thats basically open you can run a hollinger if you want?

And you can cut the roof off an mx5 and totally enclose the cockpit except where your head sticks out for aero?

E85 is fine also, also can someone please clarify if all internal engine mods are permitted if they arent mentioned?

Cams etc are free right?

Dann

[Boyracer]

Easier for you to just ready the rules Dann.

http://www.cams.com.au/motor-sport/cams-manual/race#2nd

As for the Shelleys, goodbye and hope they never come back, I was dríven off the road by the old man and certainly didn't receive any type of apology, any abuse they received I feel was totally warranted.

[NitroDann]

I was just there but it only mentions removing material from cylinder head and max capacity.

Specifications of Automobiles – Group 2B
Last updated: 01/01/2013
4
© Confederation of Australian Motor Sport Ltd. All use subject to Conditions of Use at
www.camsmanual.com.au
GROUP 2B - MARQUE SPORTS CARS
4.
ENGINE
4.1
General:
Engine capacity for reciprocating engines may be varied within the limits of the recognised
or replacement block; save that the maximum permitted capacity of the engine is 6000cc. Save for the
restrictions imposed in Articles 1.4, 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4, the remainder of the engine assembly and associated
systems are free.
4.2
Reciprocating engines:
(i)
The cylinder head/s must be those that were standard for that particular model. The cylinder head/s may be
modified only by the removal of metal.
(ii)
The cylinder block may be replaced by another of the same family of block, which is deemed to be one that:
•
is from the same manufacturer
•
has the same cylinder bore spacing and general configuration.
•
retains the same cylinder head bolt positions.
(iii)
The cylinder block may be modified only by the removal of metal, whilst retaining the original configuration

Doesnt mention cams, piston choice, compression valves etc.

But I gather from this that an NA shell with a VVT engine is totally legit?

Dann

[toppertee]

I was just there but it only mentions removing material from cylinder head

Dann

don't worry about the rules just get your mates on the board.
So you can run a mosler, GT3, s/c lotus, vett, gtr35......... All production cars.....

[NitroDann]

thats where Im going with this yes.

Dann