Why is the MX5 class so popular in QLD?

[SKYHI]

A 2F car is not that quick but definantly not slow. Plenty quick enough to have some fun in especially when there is a dozen of the same spec cars running around you.

Precisely Brett. I use to race an STi that was a fair bit quicker than most 2F cars but more often than not I would be racing myself after a lap or two. Then I'd sit and watch ths guys in the middle of the pack in the MX5s and see the fun they were having. That's were it's at for me

I can't understand why AASA don't adopt some sort of class structure to run at a state based level that could then be adopted into a National series like the AMRC. This lack of structure and the entry fees for the AMRC are the two reasons the AMRC is struggling at the moment.

Paul.

[fish]

yep the racing is where it is at......totally agree with you Brett ...pity more southerners didn't have the same attitude towards coming up here to race us QLD'rs....maybe they are just scared of a bit of competition

[Red 2f MX5]

I would heaps prefer to race a slower car that is racing with a pack of other cars than something really fast and expensive that just drives off into the distance.
I think there is a couple of NSW guys coming up for the V8 round. I thought there would have been more.

Cheers
Brett

[Cal]

I think there is a couple of NSW guys coming up for the V8 round. I thought there would have been more.

Same here. Kind of disappointing when we go down south so much.

[Boyracer]

I would be there if I could afford it...

[SKYHI]

Where there's a will there's a way

Paul.

[Cal]

I would be there if I could afford it...

Sell some organs

[fish]

afford it ....pppffft who can afford to do what we do ?????
credit cards they are an amazing thing .....

put it on there and worry about paying later !!!!

[colster3]

As a new race car owner/driver (Gonna get the thing up to Wakefield on the 9th of June for some seat time), I would concur with all the sentiments listed here. Happy to convert my car to comply with 2F, just not sure how much change is required.
Boyracer, I believe you built this thing, seems to me doors with working bits, a spare chair in the left hand side & some semi-slicks would just about do eh?
I don't claim to have anywhere near a budget, just plan to do selected State rounds, 6 hour relay (if I can rustle up a team) and FOSC. The rest of the time it will be supersprints for me ATM.

[Red 2f MX5]

Come out to the FoSC meeting on the weekend of 14/15 of June.
There are quite a few MX5's running that weekend. There will be a few 2F cars there. Come and have a look at my 2F car. It will give you an idea of what you can do. Red NA. # 3 for that weekend. Only to happy to help out with any info you want.

Cheers
Brett

[irwin83r]

everyone i know that wants to race their mx5 just plain cant afford it

i mean i enjoy supersprints but im guessing by mid next year im going to be getting over it and want some real racing.. but whats out there other than prod sports i dont know, i haven't looked into it really yet.

what dose prod sports cost a round on average? what do you get as far as track time?

idealy in my eyes what needs to be out there is a class that will let you run a street car with a brown davis or alike and harness aswell as light mods up to say suspension, CAI, exhausts, ecu, cams, flywheels and diffs ie nothing the weekend mechanic could install them self, but also having a class for standard cars with the same safety features. why a street car? because i and alot of others cant afford a trailer and a tow car nor do i or alot of others have anywhere to park one.. thats not to say full on race cars wouldnt be welcome. it would just have to have classes similar to the club track day setup only problem being having them all on the track at the same time??
as for the actual events it would have to be a morning sprint format event for qualifying/familiarization, followed by a real races.. im not sure about how you would go for time.. ive never looked at that side of it.. but i know my self and others wouldnt be interested if there wasnt a proper race/races that went for atleast 30min. i mean thats the one thing thats actually making me and others think twice about doing super sprints next year.. not only that its not real racing but the fact that the amount of track time you get seems to vary greatly ranging from okay value too what honestly feels like a total rip off and thats not saying the organisers are robbing you its just not possible to get that many sprints in in one day theres so much down time with warm up and warm down laps and the interchange between groups. with a real race there would much less down time i would think..

as for track fees supersprints are starting to get towards the top of what i would want to be paying once a month.. but i guess i would be able to stretch to around 200-250 if the events were more value for money ie more time on the black stuff and proper racing. but even then if you doing a proper race once a month how many sets of tyres and pads would you be looking at? would a control tyre and pad bring costs down? would someone like QFM do a control pad at a lower rate if everyones going to be buying them?

im not in any way having a go at the supersprint organizers here let me make that clear. they do an amazing job and i've enjoyed everyday ive particepated in, i just want some more track time and longer sessions but thats more the fact that the tracks close too early and open too late. i guess i just wanted to point out that the people that boyracer would want to attract would be the supersprinters and me being one of them these are my views (however i cant speak on all their behalfs)

[Red 2f MX5]

Try and get out to the FoSc meeting at OPGP in a couple of weeks. There all all types of cars and people at these meetings. From road registered cars to full on racecars. And people with all different sized budgets.

These meetings are great value for money. $220 for a 20 minute
qualifying session and 5 x 6 to 8 lap races over the weekend. Plus some great racing to watch when you are not on the car. Also a great bunch of people at these meetings that are there for a good time and not to serious.
I highly recomend these meetings and are a great place to start your racing.

You can run a road registered car. Just needs the safety items required to race. eg cage, fire extinguisher and your suit etc. I know of quite a few guys running with completely standard motors. You can do it on a tight budget. Just pay your entry, put fuel in your car and go for it.

There is also a group of guys trying to put a MX5 series together for next year. One of those guys is Peter Whitten who was one of the original 4 guys who got FoSC up and running. Peter actually drives a pretty well standard MX5 and will be at OP in a couple of weeks. They are going to invite all MX5 owners to compete in this series. But they will have control items. Tyres are one of them. Also i think they will be using weight for cars that just drive away into the distance. This is to try and level out the playing field. For example if you start winning a lot of races you will have weight added to your car.
So hopefully a MX5 only series in NSW will be up and running next year. I think it will be a 6 to 8 round championship.
You would get your road registered cars logged under 2F regulations.
To do these FoSC meetings will probably cost you little more than a supersprint.
I guarantee you will love it. The more MX5's we see on the track the better. And the better chance we have of getting a seies up and going. If some of you guys doing supersprints make the leap to racing that would be great. Once you do it you won't look back.

Cheers
Brett

[SKYHI]

Irwin83r,

We have the perfect class for you, it's called 2F \"Production Sports Cars\".
Everything you mention is achievable, it'll just come down to how much compromise you want to have between a \"daily driver\" and \"race car\".

I recently purchased a completely stock, road registered, NA8 clubman that I planned to race. I have since stripped out the interior put in a roll cage, a few other safety items, put in some good brake pads, good fluids and semi slick tyres and now I'm racing. I'm not entirely sure how the brown davis bars go as far as the CAMS regs go but I have seen guys racing with half cages installed. I have a mod plate on the car for the cage, seat and harness and it's all still 100% street legal.

I recently drove my car to and from the track and I know of others that do it here in QLD. As I said there will always be a bit of a compromise but you don't need to have the fastest, full on \"race car\" to get involved and have a lot of fun. My car is completely stock as far as drivetrain and engine go and yes I'm down the back, but with a few little engine mods I'll be mixing it up with the 1600 \"race\" cars and some of the slower 1800s.

Apart from the initial outlay it won't really cost much more than the sprints depending on what type of events you choose to do. We are lucky here in QLD to have a great series of affordable racing at QR run under the AASA banner. I've said previously if you guys in NSW could get the management at Wakefield to do something similar I believe club racing would boom.

In the meantime you have the prodsports events and the FOSC events to consider which are still reasonable value. Maybe some of the other NSW guys can fill you in a bit more about the details of these events. Check out their websites:

http://www.prodsports.com.au/

http://www.fosc.com.au/

Paul.

[Red 2f MX5]

FoSC are fantastic. A real relaxed atmosphere where all the competitors mingle together and help each other out if needed. These are my kind of race meeting.

The prodsports state rounds are a little more serious and a lot of people seem to stick to themselves. But in saying that i have met some great people at these meetings.


FoSc even put on FREE beers and food at the completion of Saturday's racing. Which is a great way to meet the other competitors.

I think the FoSc meetings are the best meetings i have done. I am sure the QLD MX5 series is similar.

If you just want to go out and have a good time with some good people these FoSc meetings are the go.


Cheers
Brett

[irwin83r]

is FOSC cams affiliated or AASA?

where can i see the regs regarding what i need to do to my car safety wise and also what mods put me in what class?? as my car is not standard