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Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:20 am
by bonester
Are Eunos Roadsters (NA) speed limited? My speedo only goes up to 180km/h. Aussie ones go up to 220km/h. If it is limited, how? Jap bikes aften have a limiter built into the speedo, which is easily bypassed.
This got me thinking:
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/this-i ... rburgring/ 
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:25 am
by NitroDann
Yeah a screw in the cluster.
Dann
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:59 am
by bonester
Thanks for that. Found this after you gave me advice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGrb0w2cjakI assume the speedo just winds past the 180km/h on the speedo.

Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:41 pm
by StillIC
Well, I have a 180 speedo but no limiter. The speedo gets to somewhere around where 190 might be and then just sort of stops even though the car is still accelerating.
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:46 pm
by bonester
Cool.

Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:14 am
by hks_kansei
As above, mine has a 180k Speedo and has cracked the 200 mark, Speedo needle just kind of goes a bit past 180 and stops in no man's land
(Worth noting, mines an NB, so electronic Speedo rather than mechanical)
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:56 am
by Mr Morlock
It's not a speed limiter-the speed is limited by the capability of the engine and conditions. Speedos always have an end point on the calibration.
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:37 am
by NitroDann
Jap ones can have a 180 screw as far as i am aware.
Dann
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 5:46 pm
by hks_kansei
Mr Morlock wrote:It's not a speed limiter-the speed is limited by the capability of the engine and conditions. Speedos always have an end point on the calibration.
As the Speedo (well, gauge cluster as a whole) is wired into the body loom of the car some models do actually have a speed limiter as part of the gauge cluster
Some Nissans (and by the sounds of it NA MX5s had similar) simply have a screw installed in the back of the cluster to enable the speed limiter. The screw simply completes a circuit that enables the limiter, without the screw the circuit is incomplete and the limiter is disabled.
Japan has some oddly specific rules, one being that cars must be electronically limited to 180kph (not sure if the Speedo stopping at 180 is a rule, or just they figured why add marks if it can't reach them)
The screw method is a very simple and cheap way for them to implement it
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:48 pm
by ianoz
not just cars - my grey import bike had the 180 cutoff too. That used an opto-coupler in the speedo with a vane that broke the beam at the right point.
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:35 pm
by StillIC
Mr Morlock wrote:It's not a speed limiter-the speed is limited by the capability of the engine and conditions. Speedos always have an end point on the calibration.
All JDM vehicles are limited to a maximum speed of 180 km/h by law. And as HKS says, why put a >180 speedo on a car that will never see such speeds (unless fiddled with).
Re: Probably a stupid question re JDM
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:37 pm
by Wolfgang
hks_kansei wrote:Mr Morlock wrote:It's not a speed limiter-the speed is limited by the capability of the engine and conditions. Speedos always have an end point on the calibration.
Japan has some oddly specific rules, one being that cars must be electronically limited to 180kph (not sure if the Speedo stopping at 180 is a rule, or just they figured why add marks if it can't reach them)
The screw method is a very simple and cheap way for them to implement it
I believe there was a "gentlemens agreement" between the manufacturers and the government to limit cars to 180kmh and 206kw for safety reasons.