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Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:05 pm
by 22Silver
How cool would it be if you could get turbine shaped rims that when spun, force air that's underneath the car to get pumped out through the rim, creating negative pressure under the car. I believe they have this simply to cool brakes, but I like the idea of rims adding downward force subtly
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:18 pm
by Magpie
22Silver wrote:How cool would it be if you could get turbine shaped rims that when spun, force air that's underneath the car to get pumped out through the rim, creating negative pressure under the car. I believe they have this simply to cool brakes, but I like the idea of rims adding downward force subtly
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Airfoil_20Rimshttp://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1433413-Wheel-info
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:09 pm
by 22Silver
Pretty cool. Shame it doesn't work well.
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:48 pm
by Rasputin
I believe this would not work.
This would distort airflow underneath and around the car.
The idea of underbody aero is to get as little air, to the rear in the smoothest most orderly fashion possible; to fill the low pressure void behind your car as efficiently as can be.
To add-
I can't see a wheel spinning at even 300KMh would be enough to produce a vacuum in such a large body of air; that your car passes over every split moment.
(Consider how fast a turbocharger spins to create positive pressure (over 150,000RPM))
Splitters, wings, trays, canards and vents do more than enough in regards to sucking your car to the floor.
Edit: Just had an additional brain-fart.
Say one did attach turbines that were spun seperate to the wheels, on electric motors (those wheels called "spinners" come to mind).
You may end up actually reducing effectiveness by literally sucking more air under the car, and vacating more air than required.
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:29 pm
by 22Silver
Interesting.
Anyone else have any ridiculous ideas that sound cool but probably don't work?
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:53 am
by mr2 spyder
All the time.
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:09 pm
by Rocky
4 wheel steering comes to mind.
What happened to that?
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:32 pm
by Locutus
cost & reliability issues.
it's still used these days, but typically only for reducing turning circles on larger wheelbase vehicles.
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:07 pm
by Magpie
Tyrrell P34
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:56 am
by Sidewinder
Someone once suggested that I route the air conditioner output to the engine's air intake, since engines produce more power with cold air. I wonder why nobody ever thought of that.

Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:45 am
by Rovy
Re: Neat ideas for racecars
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:06 pm
by 22Silver
The engine.. However, the engine powers a supercharger, and superchargers make many fast such amaze wow