Steering wheel defect???

[Dan]

To be honest (and I'm going to go against the grain here, I'm pretty sure) I'm actually happy most of the time they look at this kind of stuff.
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You may think your steering wheel is trivial, but what if it was a really terrible bendable and snappable one that broke when someone was driving, potentially losing steering? I'd really like to see them questioning more of that. It's an annoyance, a bit of time, but it could save someone's life.

Yeh, I agree with you on that. Those momo steering wheels do look non OEM and potentially fake to the unknowing eye.

[tescoking]

I know we have been talking steering wheels, but I got a lecture from the boys in blue about me momo gear knob, they told me that the shift pattern had to be displayed on the gear knob ---- why I still don't know

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I had this on my car, it is lovely

[Okibi]

..but Momo is Italian

Cheers for that, learnt something new today

[taminga16]

Loking at your image Pam, it would be hellish to reach the accelerator in a skirt .
Greg.

[gslender]

I can see why. If you had to move a car that had a tricky to get dog leg first, was grumbly and slow to take off in second, with no owner around and a fire right next to you and you NEED to move that vehicle, coming your way, it would be a pain in the arse to work out the shift pattern. When you could just put in in first, and get the hell out. Sometimes you can't just push a car away, for whatever reason.

On a non emergency side, I don't mind playing around normally, but sometimes it can be a pain in the arse to move 15 cars in a couple of minutes, with 6 different shift patterns. Sometimes it would be nice to have a pattern written there.

I can see why you'd disagree though.

Seriously though guys, these rules have been there for decades. You can't find something better to whinge about?

Pam, truth is you could come up with 1000 reasons to have a rule. Point I'm making is when is too many rules a problem? Do you want to live your life where a lot of the decisions and choices are regulated? Maybe your one of the personality types that likes planning and structure, but a healthy percentage of the population doesn't, can't stand it and feels suffocated by it.

The fact we have to have the rules for really small % chance of some rare event happening is a good example of rules gone too far.

Seriously, a legislated rule exists to ensure the shift pattern on a gear shift exist?

You don't think some cars are confusing enough when you sit in them - have a look at any number of modern cars and variety of start, gear and drive requirements. A H pattern isn't going to help.

Just stupid rules.

[sailaholic]

I think The requirement is for a shift pattern to be marked. Not nesiciarly on the gear stick though. Some are on the dash etc.

The rule would have been written with new cars in mind.


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[gslender]

More I think about it, the more I'm convinced the popo had no real understanding of the defect law as it applies to my year model car. The rule states it has to only have a crash pad on the steering wheel if the manufactured had one (pre 95 cars) so he didn't know the year (and could have thought it looked a like a 1999) and wouldn't have known if it did or dint have a crash pad or momo stock wheel.

So what would have happened if i argued with him? Would he issue a ticket and then what, what's my recourse (assuming I'm right) ??

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[speed]

If you had been issued a ticket your only options would be to write a letter or fight it in court or both.
You have every right to argue your point with them but in my experience is never worth it. Be happy you didn't get a ticket


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[Mr Morlock]

what a lot of noise about nothing. The guy gets pulled over and quizzed but does not get any penalty. I think its excellent that the Police actually pay some attention to mods as an example. When we talk about "the Truth" well its that loads of cars are not roadworthy , or drivers have no licences , or they ignore laws about mods and don't park legally etc and largely they get away with it. The regs behind modifications on cars is an extremely complicated business and no one is across all the rules and no one is an expert on every vehicle. If this matter is really an issue then maybe there is an imbalance on what's important.

[Pamex]

Of course they're not going to know in regards to every single car. That's just bizarre to expect that.

The whole point is to to have a reasonable understanding of RW requirements and standard parts and accessories. Anything that stands out is questionable. A MOMO badge would instantly raise suspicion.

That's like asking even someone that deals with cars every day what size wheels and tyres came standard with a 1982 Mitsubishi Scorpion.

So, people are getting angry over having to display a shift pattern? Well, I'm angry that the Ebola vaccine team have just had their funding slashed, CSIRO are going down the drain and war memorial funding has just been slashed meaning no travelling exhibitions. It's sad to think that someone in the world is living under a murderous regime, and that people are having their entire families slaughtered over their sexuality or religion. But hey, shift pattern.

There are plenty of things to get angry about. Why would you get cross about a rule that has been in place since 1989?

[Snowmotion]

There are plenty of things to get angry about. Why would you get cross about a rule that has been in place since 1989?

You are being too literal...
I am personally upset about;-
* being over regulated, the waste of tax payer dollars on excessive bureaucracy and over regulation.
* The waste of tax payer dollars by Public servants spending their "budget" before the end of the financial year on unnecessary things just to ensure their budget is not cut for the next year, even though they really did not need that much budget.
* The unethical behavior of our politicians, looking after their own pocket instead of the public good.

But this just represents the waste of tax payers dollars so they are not available for the really important issues.
But if you prefer, we can all just say nothing and let our oh so ethical politicians decide where to spend your hard earned tax dollars.
This being a car forum, we talk about car problems.. mostly.

[bruce]

I printed out a little shift pattern picture and stuck it on the console (going for RWC soon). It may fall off later on...

[Pamex]

Too literal, possibly.

If people are getting upset over new rules to come into effect, then sure.

But stuff that's been there since 1989 and earlier? Meh. My point was that it's such a bizarre thing to get your knickers in a knot over.

[Snowmotion]

Too literal, possibly.

If people are getting upset over new rules to come into effect, then sure.

But stuff that's been there since 1989 and earlier? Meh. My point was that it's such a bizarre thing to get your knickers in a knot over.

It may have been there since 1989, but I was blissfully unaware that it was a defect. Ignorance is no excuse and fortunately I had not wasted money on one of the hundreds of gear knobs you can buy with no shift pattern indicated. So to me, it is like a new law (new to me).

[Suspense]

This reminds me of the Sydney SP owner (with a stock SP engine) who was defected for having an illegal turbo installation on an MX5...