13b renesis conversions available soon

[green_comet]

don't really care for smart ass comments from middle age men growing breasts- rotary conversion may not be everyone's cup of tea so if you don't have a genuine comment or query don't hit the link to this topic- Thanks Luke


BLUE94T-rx8 is quick for a stock car- as long as you have the co-ordination/concentration to keep it in the 6-9k powerband through twistys.. don't care what you say- they're a quick STANDARD car.

BJONES-sorry but I don't know many forum members. i do know that most of them are 40 plus and mature enough to answer comments directed at them on their own - sorry to upset you. [b]Hearing rotories being canned by strangers shits me 99% of the time they have never been in one- in this instance i was wrong-accepted- lets all move on shall we gentlemen

LOL..

[bruce]

Queensland still hasn't adopted the NCOP.

Queensland: turn your watches back an hour, your mind back 20 years.

[Tezzax5]

Queensland still hasn't adopted the NCOP.

Queensland: turn your watches back an hour, your mind back 20 years.

Well BRUCE then you do have an option..

Some questions about the conversion

How will the weight distribution work out ?
Will you need to change spring rates?

NA,NB motor and box compared to 13B+ RX7 gearbox what is the difference in weight?
Long term will a NB gearbox survive upgraded engine output?

[284GCZ]

^^ don't think there is much in the weight difference- looking at the two motors on the floor rotary looks to be a fair few kg lighter-
Mr rotary is using tein coilovers in his that will be fitted after conversion is complete so couldn't tell you how it would affect spring rates from piston to rotor..
12a rx7 gearboxes, corona 4 speeders, rx4 4 speeds have survived for long periods in tony's previous cars which had 200hp atw peripheral ported motors running in front of them.. Nb gearboxes are as strong or stronger than the above ones stated-
non turbo rotaries don't produce a hell of a lot of torque so i'd say thats why gearboxes last.

[Duj]

Until I see some pics I call bullshit on all of this dribble.

[RG.net]

Until I see some pics I call bullshit on all of this dribble.

This.

Also, the 6 speed NB box cant handle much more over 200kw, without babying it, same with diffs. So seeing that your going N/A ... you should be fine.

for me, i will be running a S4 Turbo box, we'll see how long the diff will last though.

The 13B is a lighter engine then the B6 and BPs

[Blue94t]

BLUE94T-rx8 is quick for a stock car- as long as you have the co-ordination/concentration to keep it in the 6-9k powerband through twistys.. don't care what you say- they're a quick STANDARD car.

I am glad you don't care what I say because they are not that quick.

I have dríven one and it was nowhere near as impressive as a 370z.

[lowmiata]

don't really care for smart ass comments from middle age men growing breasts- rotary conversion may not be everyone's cup of tea so if you don't have a genuine comment or query don't hit the link to this topic- Thanks Luke

Seriously mate! you've been on here 5 minutes and you think you've nailed down the demographic of the mx5 enthusiest?
You got to be here a couple of years or more before you can make that call because its a wide demographic!

BJONES- sorry but I don't know many forum members. i do know that most of them are 40 plus and mature enough to answer comments directed at them on their own - sorry to upset you. Hearing rotories being canned by strangers shits me- 99% of the time they have never been in one- in this instance i was wrong-accepted- lets all move on shall we gentlemen

285GCZ sorry but you should get to know the people your tarring with your demographic brush first! most people on this forum can see the rotary engine as a leading design in thinking outside the box, there are no other combustion engine design ever built that have stayed like the rotary (don't quote me on this)

It seems as your looking over the shoulder of this "Mr Rotary" and telling us about his trials and tribulations, thats great but just remember that alot of us here have had varing degrees of modifying mazda's be it mx5's or rotaries so for any of us to be told you don't know what your talking about is going to get peoples backs up period,
take a brake add some pics (pictures speak a thousand words) or better yet involve "Mr Rotary" in the forum.

Between the "demographic" on this forum there are people that have modified the mx5 till there is nothing left! turbos superchargers engine conversions alot of guys have also put rotors in them. this forum is a melting pot of ideas and real world achievements, just remember that next post

Regards,
Ryno.

[CT]

Until I see some pics I call bullshit on all of this dribble.

This.
Also, the 6 speed NB box cant handle much more over 200kw, without babying it, same with diffs.

There sure is some BS in this thread! The NB8B+ diffs and boxes can handle 200rwkw in race trim - not much more. NFI on the RX8 power post tuning, but our race cars are doing that at the wheels and we all know that racing is much harder than picking up KFC and a DVD. There is some merit if you like you car to sound like a "that". I don't. If a turbo 1.8 with GT2560 can keep up with an RX7 SP in race trim - then I can't see the point. Unless of course you like chickens - then kudos for trying.

BTW, if you do get 10 registered - let us know what lap times they are doing - I need something to beat a supercharged honda engined lotus exige......60secs at Wakefield please!

[Hellmun]

BTW, if you do get 10 registered - let us know what lap times they are doing - I need something to beat a supercharged honda engined lotus exige......60secs at Wakefield please!

Pffft. It's hard enough beating the toyota engined one at Supersprints....

[mr_rotary]

Will be there tomorrow to take some pics.. will post up soon.

As stated in your initial post - any chance you can post these up

[RG.net]

Until I see some pics I call bullshit on all of this dribble.

This.
Also, the 6 speed NB box cant handle much more over 200kw, without babying it, same with diffs.

There sure is some BS in this thread! The NB8B+ diffs and boxes can handle 200rwkw in race trim - not much more. quote]

Are you talking to me? cause you basically repeated what i have said

[Regie]

BTW, if you do get 10 registered - let us know what lap times they are doing - I need something to beat a supercharged honda engined lotus exige......60secs at Wakefield please!

Pffft. It's hard enough beating the toyota engined one at Supersprints....

The Mackey brothers..ive been in one of their Exige's man they are a seriously quick bit of car!!!

[Okibi]

I thought i'd have a look at the bullet pricing as I remember they started doing 13bt conversions many moons ago.

Apparently these are the 1998 prices from bullet

The kit includes:
*Car with complete interior, doors and panels, glass and windows all fitted.
*Full space frame chassis painted and fitted to car including cross member, front and rear suspension and brakes.
*Wheels and tyres, in most cases standard.
*Motor and gearbox, differential and driveline.
*Front body panels in gel coat with all mounts attached.
*Polished aluminium bonnet pivot with ball bearing mounts for custom tilting front.
*Polished alloy bonnet locks and supports.
*All needed lights and turn signals.
*All engine accessories (excluding engine management computer and wiring loom, which are available as an extra)

It was $20,000 in kit form.

Details on Completed, turn key car form
The car is fully completed by the company including all emissions and engineer's tests, ready to be registered in your (Australian) state.
13B version around AUS$35000
20B version add 10%
Lexus V8 version add 15%



In June 2003

Roadster now retails for $98,000.00* , and their Roadster SS (Sprintex Special) is $118,000.00* .
*Recommended retail price, excluding Dealer Delivery, Transfer Fees and Stamp Duty

I know that the ADR process was complicated and expensive but at what point did the price jump so dramatically?

[orx626]

....but at what point did the price jump so dramatically?

When they realised that the product was dead in the water and then were trying to recover on their investment as quickly as possible. I first saw the jump in price around 2004.

Unfortunately the low volume production of kit cars (Individually Constructed Vehicle's - ICV's) in Australia are damn near impossble to make a living from. Unlike in the UK (where the kit car industry is second to none), Australian regulations are far more rigid and with that comes massive compliance/certification costs. The real deal breaker is that the money for the compliance/certification needs to be invested before the first vehicle can be sold. It's a huge gamble for private enterprise! Unless you've got money to burn, why would you bother! If you wanted to build just one vehicle for yourself, then fair enough! I'm pretty sure the existing kit car manufacturers wouldn't survive if their market was purely domestic.

Cheers,
Danny