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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby Okibi » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:45 pm

Don't forget the Queensland floods 2010-11

Check for flood damage.

I did things like pop the glove box out and look behind it and I removed a tail light as well.
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby Rocky » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:07 pm

If you fly up at the moment you will be able to check for flood damage both before and after you buy it.
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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby JBT » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:29 pm

kiezon wrote:So, it turns out that Transport and motoring service centres are closed on Saturdays.

Halp.

You need to arrange a permit to drive the car from Toowoomba to Sydney from your state authority in advance of your trip.https://www.service.nsw.gov.au/transaction/apply-unregistered-vehicle-permit and add that to the cost of your airfare as money gone if the car fails your inspection.
You also need to satisfy yourself that the car is unencumbered and not on the WOVR.
If you decide to buy the car, you need a detailed bill of sale and receipt etc. from the seller stating that the vehicle is sold to you unregistered.
The seller removes the plates and is responsible for cancelling the QLD rego so he can get any refund due.

An alternative, if you decisde to buy, is to have the seller drive you and the car to Tweed Heads on Monday and get it registered there.
You arrange to get seller and his number plates back to Toowoomba
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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby NMX516 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:53 pm

I've bought 3 MX-5's from interstate over the years - two in NSW and one in the ACT. Every time I took the car registered and with the plates on, drove it home and then once I got a QLD roadworthy/safety cert (supposed to be done within a fortnight), I took the car down to DOT and handed in the interstate plates and got new QLD rego. They take the old plates and sort that out with their interstate counterpart. I was also able to get a refund on the unused rego (and CTP/Green slip) by providing the interstate authorities with proof of handing in the plates (QLD Transport give you a receipt) and showing that the VIN was now officially registered in QLD.

If the car is being sold registered, there is no need to unregister and get a permit to drive it home. Those permits have a limited use and lifespan, meanwhile when you get home you'll have to get the car to a mechanic to get a roadworthy cert.... And of course if you buy on a weekend....

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby kiezon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:01 pm

JBT wrote:You also need to satisfy yourself that the car is unencumbered and not on the WOVR.
If you decide to buy the car, you need a detailed bill of sale and receipt etc. from the seller stating that the vehicle is sold to you unregistered.
The seller removes the plates and is responsible for cancelling the QLD rego so he can get any refund due.

An alternative, if you decisde to buy, is to have the seller drive you and the car to Tweed Heads on Monday and get it registered there.
You arrange to get seller and his number plates back to Toowoomba


I've done the PPSR and then the CarHistory report just a few days ago. All clean.

Just gave the owner a call and he's organised the roadworthy certificate. He has informed me that he's organised everything for the sale and mentioned that he feels as if driving the car unregistered is unfair for me. He'll (this is the part where I'm a bit skeptical) add me under his registration (or somewhere along these lines) and we'll communicate from there in order to cancel the rego. I suggested that I mail the number plates to him to allow himself to cancel the rego in Queensland. I really don't mind driving under a permit -- not really sure why he feels it's unfair for me.

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby kiezon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:04 pm

NMX516 wrote:I've bought 3 MX-5's from interstate over the years - two in NSW and one in the ACT. Every time I took the car registered and with the plates on, drove it home and then once I got a QLD roadworthy/safety cert (supposed to be done within a fortnight), I took the car down to DOT and handed in the interstate plates and got new QLD rego. They take the old plates and sort that out with their interstate counterpart. I was also able to get a refund on the unused rego (and CTP/Green slip) by providing the interstate authorities with proof of handing in the plates (QLD Transport give you a receipt) and showing that the VIN was now officially registered in QLD.

If the car is being sold registered, there is no need to unregister and get a permit to drive it home. Those permits have a limited use and lifespan, meanwhile when you get home you'll have to get the car to a mechanic to get a roadworthy cert.... And of course if you buy on a weekend....

Buying interstate is simple - don't overcomplicate it.


Though, it says that rego cannot be transferred to a person who doesn't have a Queensland address. I was all down to drive it with the QLD plates until I ran into that bit of information.

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby kiezon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:06 pm

Okibi wrote:Don't forget the Queensland floods 2010-11

Check for flood damage.

I did things like pop the glove box out and look behind it and I removed a tail light as well.


Already googled the crap on this topic and couldn't find Toowoomba on the flood map.

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby JBT » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:09 am

If you decide to drive the car while it is still registered in QLD, you'd be wise get a signed permission in some form from the registered owner(s) in case you are subject to a Police roadside check for any reason. The owner could get you to complete and sign Part B of the QLD registration transfer form (F3520) and you could take a photocopy to help you with with proof of transfer of ownership etc. when you go through the hoops in NSW.

A QLD Safety Certificate (roadworthy) is useless to you but a requirement for the seller if selling the car registered.

Toowoomba's elevation is about 700 m (2100 ft) above sea level and only gets localised creek flooding - which was extreme in 2011. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-01-11/toowoomba-swamped-by-deadly-inland-tsunami/1900720
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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby Lokiel » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:14 am

Don't forget to organise a Cover Note with your insurer if you intend to drive it home - until the car is registered to you and on your insurance policy it'll be un-insured otherwise.

This was learned "the hard way", see first post here: http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=41091

As JBT suggested, get a "Transfer of Ownership Form" signed by you and the owner for legal purposes. Google for those exact words to find the form.

Also, not great driving conditions (with the remnants of Tropical cyclone Debbie still lingering and drifting slowly south) for an MX5 right now, wait a couple of days and it'll be better.
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Re: RE: Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby kiezon » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:40 am

Lokiel wrote:Don't forget to organise a Cover Note with your insurer if you intend to drive it home - until the car is registered to you and on your insurance policy it'll be un-insured otherwise.

This was learned "the hard way", see first post here: http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=41091

As JBT suggested, get a "Transfer of Ownership Form" signed by you and the owner for legal purposes. Google for those exact words to find the form.

Also, not great driving conditions (with the remnants of Tropical cyclone Debbie still lingering and drifting slowly south) for an MX5 right now, wait a couple of days and it'll be better.

Of course. There's no way in hell I'd risk a 900km drive without any form of car insurance.

Would this be said form?
https://www.support.transport.qld.gov.a ... yhk0VhqToQ

Shall I use this as well as a hand written contract with both of our details? Does anyone have a template of some sort for such a contract/Bill of sale?

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby kiezon » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:12 am

Can't seem to edit my post above but here's what I tried to upload:

EDIT: I was thinking of something like this: '"I, (seller's name) (licence number: XXXXXX, date of birth: XX/XX/XXXX) resident at _____________________________________________, have sold a blue 2003 model Mazda MX-5 (VIN number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, ODO reading: XX,XXXkms) to (buyer's name) (licence number: XXXXXX, date of birth: XX/XX/XXXX) who resides on ________________________________ on the ______________ (XX/XX/XXXX) for $XX,XXX.

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby JBT » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:07 am

I cannot send you a Bill of Sale form until tonight. However, if you google "FORM F3520", that will take you to the QLD Transport website and you can print the form You will need Part B of that form as a form of receipt and the seller will need that as his proof of disposal. You can still use Part A as proof of transfer to you should you be questioned.
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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby 93_Clubman » Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:11 am

kiezon wrote:Buying a Queensland registered vehicle from interstate
If you can’t transfer the Queensland registration into your name, you may ask the seller to cancel the vehicle’s registration at a transport and motoring customer service centre.

kiezon wrote:Though, it says that rego cannot be transferred to a person who doesn't have a Queensland address.

You're not seeking to transfer Qld rego into your name - you're going to register the vehicle in your name in NSW where you reside.
Also in above quote, Qld Transport use the word 'may' not the word 'must'.

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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby MikeVictor » Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:24 am

If current weather continues, bring scuba gear too.

As previous poster said, it's not overly complicated. You can normally drive it back to your own state and then sort it out when at your local transport office on Monday. Just make sure to take your state's relevant paperwork.
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Re: Flying up to QLD inspect an NB

Postby Code4 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:21 pm

NMX516 wrote:I've bought 3 MX-5's from interstate over the years - two in NSW and one in the ACT. Every time I took the car registered and with the plates on, drove it home and then once I got a QLD roadworthy/safety cert (supposed to be done within a fortnight), I took the car down to DOT and handed in the interstate plates and got new QLD rego. They take the old plates and sort that out with their interstate counterpart. I was also able to get a refund on the unused rego (and CTP/Green slip) by providing the interstate authorities with proof of handing in the plates (QLD Transport give you a receipt) and showing that the VIN was now officially registered in QLD.

If the car is being sold registered, there is no need to unregister and get a permit to drive it home. Those permits have a limited use and lifespan, meanwhile when you get home you'll have to get the car to a mechanic to get a roadworthy cert.... And of course if you buy on a weekend....

Buying interstate is simple - don't overcomplicate it.



THIS.... and what I said in my txt to you. All he has to do on Monday is cancel the Qld rego. You have to register it in NSW. Very simple. If you get a speeding fine on the way home he can notify them that you were the driver by stat dec..
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