General ND chat

davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Mon May 02, 2016 6:58 pm

Just needs the new CX-9 turbo motor plus stronger or bigger or heavier brakes, suspension etc. Move the battery and anything else possible to the boot to try to keep the same weight distribution as the 1009kg ones.

Less nimble, less balanced, even less boot, but more powaaah.

project.r.racing · Postby **project.r.racing** » Tue May 03, 2016 7:43 pm

Doesn't need the CX9 motor.

Just put a low pressure hairdryer on the 1.5L and increase the torque by 50%. That the the already high revving 1.5L will be enough power. Use the 2.0L brakes.

davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Tue May 03, 2016 10:27 pm

That would indeed be nice.

There are pics around of such a plan in Americaland, where they have enough of a (after)market to make the R&D worthwhile,

taipan168 · Postby **taipan168** » Wed May 04, 2016 12:17 am

davekmoore wrote:There's a video somewhere of Randy doing 1:36s round Sandown in his 1.5. That'll maybe help you decide. The car seems to be loving it nearly as much as Randy.

Got a link to the video? I searched for it but couldn't find it anywhere.

elbekay · Postby **elbekay** » Wed May 04, 2016 9:38 am

I don't think it needs a turbo; part of the fun is the instant response from the throttle. I'd rather see a higher revving version of the 2.0L installed (or even the a variant of the 2.5 in NA form)

elbekay · Postby **elbekay** » Wed May 04, 2016 1:02 pm

taipan168 wrote:
davekmoore wrote:There's a video somewhere of Randy doing 1:36s round Sandown in his 1.5. That'll maybe help you decide. The car seems to be loving it nearly as much as Randy.

Got a link to the video? I searched for it but couldn't find it anywhere.

It's on the facebook page for Xitan https://www.facebook.com/Xitan-Racing-2 ... 5/?fref=nf

He's much quicker than me by the look of things. I did a 1.49 at winton in my 1.5L, first time on the track in that car, and have got a little more time I can make up safely.

taipan168 · Postby **taipan168** » Wed May 04, 2016 10:47 pm

elbekay wrote:It's on the facebook page for Xitan https://www.facebook.com/Xitan-Racing-2 ... 5/?fref=nf

He's much quicker than me by the look of things. I did a 1.49 at winton in my 1.5L, first time on the track in that car, and have got a little more time I can make up safely.

Thanks, appreciate it! Nice lap that he did.

Randy · Postby **Randy** » Tue May 17, 2016 7:47 pm

I test drove both for quite a while. My head said 2.0. My heart said 1.5. I find the 1.5 more fun to drive and don't regret buying it.

Plus it's much more fun at track days seeing the reaction on people's faces when they realise the car chasing them is a stock 1.5 not a worked 2.0. Just need to find some decent brake pads

pcmx5 · Postby **pcmx5** » Tue May 17, 2016 9:00 pm

Randy does that mean it is no longer for sale?Hope that means you are getting heaps out of it,enjoy,

Peter.

Randy · Postby **Randy** » Wed May 18, 2016 6:54 pm

Hi Peter,

It all depends on a contract I'm chasing. Until it's signed and sealed its still for sale.

elbekay · Postby **elbekay** » Sat May 21, 2016 3:42 pm

Randy wrote:Plus it's much more fun at track days seeing the reaction on people's faces when they realise the car chasing them is a stock 1.5 not a worked 2.0. Just need to find some decent brake pads

I've ordered some Dixcel Z Type for mine. I'll post back how they go. I didn't find the stock pads great on the track as they got inconsistent in feel.

Randy · Postby **Randy** » Sat May 21, 2016 6:07 pm

Be great to hear how the pads go.

elbekay · Postby **elbekay** » Sun May 22, 2016 11:00 pm

Goodwin reporting 180 whp after OVTune with their new long headers on the 2.0L, combined with the massive jump in torque as well it will be an awesome upgrade to those with the 2L. Although it sounds like it will require a lot of work to install http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=610631

Randy · Postby **Randy** » Sun May 29, 2016 11:02 pm

BBR in the UK have been getting great power from both engines for quite a while.

http://www.bbrgti.com/product/bbr-mx-5-nd-starchip/

Nevyn72 · Postby **Nevyn72** » Mon May 30, 2016 12:19 pm

Randy wrote:BBR in the UK have been getting great power from both engines for quite a while.

http://www.bbrgti.com/product/bbr-mx-5-nd-starchip/

Need to be careful comparing the figures though.

Goodwin = Wheel horsepower
BBR = Flywheel horsepower

So not directly comparable......
While indications are that the ND has a remarkably efficient drivetrtain you are still looking at reducing the BBR figure by ~10% to make the numbers comparable. :wink: